This man Mams is not well.
Haruna.
-----Original Message-----
From: Edie Sidibeh <[log in to unmask]>
To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tue, Aug 17, 2010 2:41 pm
Subject: Re: Haruna Bravo
Yap Haruna I then will never understand you and I don't need to, but love you anyway because you never had had shortcomings because you are perfect in whatever you do and on the other hand, I am not perfect whether you admit it or not. Further more, reading your mandinka writing, I just pick the main interesting information to quote on not the whole Blah blah bum bum bum proverbs etc. What else alphabetically will you use effect from English alphabets as you will and cannot eradicate the colonial saga from our livelihood.
Bravo to you too Mams. I'm glad you're inspired. Haruna
It was for a reason I wrote in Mandingo, using English alphabets. I think you were inspired for the wrong reason Mams. I'm sorry. Haruna
What was the reason behind your Mandinka writing? and why am I inspired for a wrong reason? How Could I know the reason behind your Mandinka writings to be inspired on Good reason?
You misunderstand again. DaarManso gave us UNIQUENESSES each. It does not mean he gave us something he didn't give to another. I know this is complicated Mams, but I'll try to salvage some understanding there from.
Your consciousness is yet limited and you should try to listen to others to help your reasoning. You don’t even understand what you are writing here my friend. The UNIQUENESS you are talking about and your understanding to it is wrong. I tell you why; He (GOD) gave you Haruna English language professor and Edi a primary school dropout. Both Haruna and Edi are UNIQUE in their bestowed gifts but they are not equal period. Edi learn in a hard ways while Haruna in an easy way but Edi might have more understanding on life whiles haruna can be selfish yet together they can make anything happens. Are you following me?
I know you don’t because you are the only perfect person on this plan. What I am pointing at, is the fact that, you have a higher education while Edi a lower education right, but Edi might know something in life that you don’t know. Therefore, with your education and Edi’s knowledge about the life a UNIQUE combination not EQUAL combination. Besides I am not looking for God in anyone and maybe you are the one who really misunderstand them because I can see you are reading their writings as what they always preach is the same reasoning you are conveying here Haruna.
That was one of the problems. Why are you taking blame for nothing you did or said???? And who told you you are stupid???? You will agree with me that when you take blame for nothing, you end up insensing your fellows. And stupidity is in the eye of the beholder. Therefore, you, yourself, Mams, cannot discern you're stupid, even if you believe you are. Unless of course you are infirmed of mind. And even then, you cannot diagnose your own infirmity of mind. So you're totally screwed either way you look at it. I'm trying to help your little behind.
Again Haruna, you can only be an idiot framing others as one as you rightfully said earlier that Yahya Jammeh must be a witch if he is able to recognized one. I insist my stupidity just for you to accept yours too period. One lesson for you Haruna instead of calling people Idiot why can’t you say (maybe I am an idiot) to be more diplomatic like me haha. These are enough lessons for now good night. Edi
From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Mon, 16 August, 2010 18:51:02
Subject: Re: Haruna Bravo
Mams, you still don't understand your shortcomings and NO you didn't understand what I shared with you in the glorious Mandingo. Here's to additional understandings:
1. I used English alphabets to convey my meaning to you in Mandingo. That indicates to you that you can also communicate in Mandingo, Wollof, Serer, Aku, Manjago, Sarahule, Fula, Toucouleur, Dogon, Tuareg, Soussou, Lingala, Amharic, etcetera if you haven't gotten around to inventing alphabets for those languages yet but you prefer to communicate in them. It has nothing to do with colonization, slavery, or high school dropout because you learned the English alphabet in kindergatten. Besides what better antidote to colonialism than expressing yourself in the language you desire???
2. The most convenient way to continue your own enslavement is to communicate valuable information to your children and grandchildren in a language you are not comfortable with, a language you express contempt for, a language you associate with egregious colonization.
3. I tried to impress upon you that you have never shared original thought here with us. You are always sharing thoughts of others. That all movement of lip is not communication. That you must not hang a lantern on writing a book to complete sainthood. Muhammad and Jesus never wrote any books to my knowledge. And they are the purveyors of Islam and Christianity. Therefore, Haruna being the purveyor or HarunaSilo, has decided not to write a book yet. Should he decide to write a book, he would afford you a complementary copy...Au gratis. And it will have been because he decides a book is the proper way to convey significant information to you. I also discouraged you from comparing honourable men and women to each other. They are all unique and uniquely endowed. That you are also endowed when you recognize thusly.
Now I will address your anxieties hereunder to yield you more comprehension:
[-----Original Message----- From: Edie Sidibeh [log in to unmask] To: GAMBIA-L [log in to unmask] Sent: Mon, Aug 16, 2010 7:43 am Subject: Re: Haruna Bravo] Mams.
Bravo to you too Mams. I'm glad you're inspired.
[Thanks Haruna for your response and this is a step to a right direction,] mams.
It was a step I took. Whether it was in the right direction or not, is in the eyes of the beholder. That is you. Mams. On my part, I was trying to sell you something. By DaarManso I think you bought it. To your health!!!!!.
[as a result, I an encouraging you to keep the spirit up. Your Mandinka writing is well understood and meaningful like speaking bravo.] Mams.
It was for a reason I wrote in Mandingo, using English alphabets. I think you were inspired for the wrong reason Mams. I'm sorry.
[However, I am well aware of the fact that, God gave us all something that others don't have] Mams.
You misunderstand again. DaarManso gave us UNIQUENESSES each. It does not mean he gave us something he didn't give to another. I know this is complicated Mams, but I'll try to salvage some understanding therefrom.
DaarManso gave Mams what he gave Haruna. The gifts are in different forms commensurate with our chemistries and abilities to process the gifts for various solutions and yield. You remmember you told me we have to put aside our human nature in order to communicate spiritually????? And I shared with you that is impossible and I know you UNDERSTAND Joel and Ruth to share that with you (FWIW, you did not understand what they were telling you). Joel and Ruth understand that spirituality issues from the halo of chemistry and disposition...ergo humanity, animaldom, plant-kingdom, etcetera. The reason why you are having trouble finding DaarManso is that you think DaarManso is out of Mams and in Haruna. He's in Haruna, but he's also in Mams. Albeit in unique forms. Therefore, do not look to me to find Daarmanso because he is already in you. Look for him in you. The DaarManso in me is a replica of the one in Joel, Ruth, and Mams, but is matter-specific. You will be wasting your life away if you keep looking for DaarManso in other. that is how you were colonised in the first place. i hope you understand what I share. There is Daarmanso within even Nyaamaatohs. I think you get it now. So to say you must jettison your humanity to commune spiritually is like saying you must eat shit to prove you're gonna shit shit.
[that is the very reason I am telling you to calm down with your boasting] Mams.
I consider boasting to be a waste of time and resources. I am not predisposed to boast. Certainly not to Mams.
[and unending correction of other's in an impolite manner.] Mams.
I determine how to correct the crap an idiot tries to sell me. I am sorry you're aversed by my manner of correction. The trick is not to be an idiot in the first place. Talk to your DaarManso. That he may edit the effluence.
[I took the entire blame by accepting my stupidity] Mams.
That was one of the problems. Why are you taking blame for nothing you did or said???? And who told you you are stupid???? You will agree with me that when you take blame for nothing, you end up insensing your fellows. And stupidity is in the eye of the beholder. Therefore, you, yourself, Mams, cannot discern you're stupid, even if you believe you are. Unless of course you are infirmed of mind. And even then, you cannot diagnose your own infirmity of mind. So you're totally screwed either way you look at it. I'm trying to help your little behind.
[but you were not satisfied,] Mams.
That's the other problem. My satisfaction is my purview. Not yours. You can work to satisfy me till the cows come home, until I tell you I'm satisfied, you must continue to work for my satisfaction, especially when I'm paying you to satisfy me.
[I then divide the blame yet I could not convince you.] Mams.
Who asked you to divide blame and what is the blame you divided???????? Keep it to yourself. Don't friggin share chagrin with Haruna. Like my kids tell me, we don't let anyone steal our happy!!!!!
[What do you want???] Mams.
This may come as a shock to you Mams but I want nothing from you. Word!!!!! I take that back. I want you to friggin donate to our Pa Modou Bojang legal relief fund. Can you do that????
[Haruna is who you are and it has nothing whatsoever to do with my love for you thus I will not sometime agree with you and your attitude yet the love will flow like a river forever between us by the please of God.] Mams.
Very good. Just don't flood the river with the comprehensive love you send my way.
[I like you but about at the same time worry due to the picture you framed yourself into in these discussing forums.] Mams.
You must not have much else to worry yourself about. And now that you share that my frame in fora worry you, yolur lil behind is toast.
[I understand you are a leadership oriented fellow and aiming to that direction,] Mams.
Hello!!!!!! Orientation is my purview. Not yours. And you are mistaken that my orientation is Leadership. My orientation is inspiration. You must understand that folk want to lead you to different places. For example, PDOIS will lead you into a big dinko. Yahya will lead you into oblivion. So you have to choose where you want to go. Don't worry about a leader's wet dreams. no wonder the UK colonised you with such reckless abandon.
[yet forcing it will only deter the progress because the more you are forcing it the less you will attract your fans.] Mams.
There you go again. If anyone tells you they want to lead you Mams, get your machette out. Word!!! They'd better tell you where they're taking you to. The rest is on you. Don't follow them to the destination and then take a whack at them. That would be criminal. I thought you were my fan already. You are enough. I don't need any more fans Mams. Or are fans gonna force themselves on me???? I have my own machette for clueless fans you know.
[A to be leader should be able to reason and communicate with other without causing misdemeanors.] Mams.
You tell your leader that. if he/she doesn't get it, you show him/her the machette.
[A to be leader should be able to respect and accept the ideas of others or to reason with them on their ideas but not to condemn them as kind of illiterates.] Mams.
You tell 'em Mams. I'm just curious Mams; what is an illiterate???? And why would I want to lead an illiterate anywhere?????? You're too funny men. I can't stay pissed at you for long. Gaddamit.
[Yours one and only lover what??? I mean brother sorry don't take it seriously hahaha.] Mams.
Now there's an illiterate in the English language. I don't wanna lead your behind anywhere Mams. Scout's honour!
[Love you Edi] Mams.
Prove it gaddamit. I luh you too.
From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Sun, 15 August, 2010 21:55:45
Subject: Re: Haruna
Mams,
Ibe khaira to? Kor-tanateh? Dimbaayaa dung? Mbe duwaa laalye. Alamaa Daarmanso yehso simaayaa ning jaata-kendeyaala.
Ngela kumakango moyleh. Abaraka. Bari ngaamira i-taki-ta domanding. Ning iko ntemang feng soto mbeh meng waafi la, woto ninga kitaabo safeh, itete feng sanna no wo kitaabo kono. Muneyaatinna nga wo fo? Kaatu nte feng waafi noola nmang meng dadaa walla Ala mang nharijeh menna. Yeng fahamu kodee? Kitaabu Saferoo nafaa mu menti wolemu ning DaarManso ye E-harjeh londohla, inyantale ining inyong hadamadingol yewo londo talaa. DaarManso buka moh so londoh la ikafunyol mang soola menna. londoh fanang talaa nyaalu bejeleh. Isi dohje aye londoh talaa akebaarola, walla akumakango la, walla aye kitaabo safe ayaa waafi itema. Woto nteh keebaaro ning Nna kumakangol wolemu ntela londitalaa siloh ti. Ning mpareh ta wati-wo-wati, ka kitaaboh safeh, mbeh dankeneyaa la le koh mbeh meng safeh la, abekela tonyaa leti, atekela kajafi koo ti, adung nga kodoh hakkoh meng joor ka kitaabo safe, mbeh iteh kaning la wolela walla ngaa deela Lillahi warasoolihi.
Nying duniyaa kono, kitaabu safeero kakeh daleela jamaa lela. Abeh mang ke Londitalaa ti. Mbeh idaanila isii hakkilo tu baakeh. Nfaa koleh niyyeh kumakang kiling fo Nyaalamaa-yeh, ayaatara yaa kumakang tang fo finkintewo yeleh. Ningko finkintewo, Nmaa fo meng bukeh jeh anyaala. Wo kumoh ye kotoh lesoto. mbeh nying finkintewo mengma, aka dimbaa maaleh ayaabulo dundi koo. nteh wasa ta Daarmanso yeng so menna. Nteh kitaaboh safeh la dangko dorong Mams yaafo Aaaarohna ye kitaaboh safeleh. Ala makaamoo futatale sanying. Nteh la dankeneyaa janfa ta wo yele Mams. Yaajeh Nkuloobaliyaa ta bari nka kebaa bunyaa. Hadamadingo bukaa ila baluwo beeke kongo ning haasidiyaa ti. Moh wo moh beh nying duniyaa kono, DaarManso yeh-iso fennela amang inyong moh doh so menna. Kaneh ining moh doh taamanseri. Amang beteyaa adung abuka yiriwaa naati noh iyeh. Daa-turo behla mammango mankeh kawandoh-ti. Isii hakkilo tu baakeh. Ngela makaamoh jeh nyaameng, isii fang korosi kendekeh.
Ika nying kumakango meng fo wolemu ko nyanta nNa hadamadingyaa landi la karala ning Mbeh nyo kawandila sondomo keynyaa la. bari ni-yaa jubeh domanding, sondomo naata daaro lekono. Beyangol, tumboohlu, hadamadingol, nyaamool, ibay yeh sondomo sotoleh. Nte-teh iteh kawandinoola beyang sondomo kono. Hanni ayaatara nteh nga beyang sondomo fahamuleh. Nteh Nfang bondi noola hadamadingyaa kono ngeh iteh kawandi sondomo koonyaala.
Ning iko iteteala kango fola fo-ning jongyaa mangsoto nung, woto iteh teh ila kango fola abadah. Kaatu jongyaa soto-taleh adung kumakango dorong mang jongyaa sotondi. inyanta-leh iyeh miira baakeh. Ila nying miranyaa, woleyaatinna ineneteh bola jongyaa kono. Foh iteh yaa lonneh bang ko isi ifansung alphabeto dadaa no ila kango yelebang???????? Ilafita siila foh inyong hadamadingo yeh daliilo dila yehla kumakango safeh no foh idingol ning e-mamaringol sii ila londoh soto noh??????? Ning imeh hakkilo tu, ibeh faala jongyaa le konoh. Kaatung ning inyong hadamadingo yeh ilakango safeh iyeh, abeh jongyaala le koteng.
Ala Maa isiimaayala Mams. Ila-kuwo diyaa tannye bari balafaa kuwo lemu deh! Bisimillah.
Ibaadimma Aaarohna leka nying kibaaro futandi-Ima. Wassalam..
-----Original Message-----
From: Edie Sidibeh <[log in to unmask]>
To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sun, Aug 15, 2010 7:01 am
Subject: Re: Haruna
Surely I will write in Mandinka/Wollof/jola/Serrel/Pular if you could turn the clock around from the time of colonisation by rewriting the history and curriculum of Gambia in Mandinka/Wollof/pular etc. You will not be in US today boasting on how good you are in the English language if we can use our mother tongues in a forum like this. Besides, even a primary school dropout can understand this simple ENGLISH: It is our function to rise above all sense of human hood in our relationship with each other so that we spiritually enjoy each other’s companionship, so that we enjoy the companionship of each other on purely spiritual levels, and thereby never bear witness to a fault in each other. When acting in the capacity of a practitioner or teacher to each other, we then have the right to point out any departure from a spiritual principle. But we still have no right to do it with an atmosphere of censure, or criticism, or condemnation – only with the teacher’s instinct of correction and impartition. Furthermore, I am praying for you to calm down and wait for your turn to fame than forcing yourself through. Poets are never boasting but work the work. In other words write a book or start lecturing in the universities or do something rather productive than selling yourself verbally without product. I really envy Baba, Dr.Sane and many others who don't need to sell themselves verbally but having undeniable products backing them. I am not saying you haven't had one but I still remain to seeing it and will be proud of you after reading something tangible from Haruna than boasting allover the Gl. But no matter what, I will always love you as a beautiful, nice, handsome, intelligent, and friendly fellow. Love you man you are great Haruna.
From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Sat, 14 August, 2010 22:12:01
Subject: Re: Haruna
No you are not stupid. Primary school dropouts are not stupid. So you cannot use stupidity as an excuse to worm your way out of translations into intelligible English. I will make it easier for you... Translate into friggin wollof if English is deficient in conveying your meaning. Allez Mams. Don't disappoint yours truly. I luh you too.
Haruna. I am getting impatient with you already. Don't mess with me.
-----Original Message-----
From: Edie Sidibeh <[log in to unmask]>
To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sat, Aug 14, 2010 2:23 pm
Subject: Re: Haruna
I told you I am a primary school dropout Haruna please be patient with me. I wish I am able to translate this into any more intelligible English sorry for my stupidity just can't help if you don't understand. Thanks again and I still love you man. Edi
From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thu, 12 August, 2010 19:35:27
Subject: Re: Haruna
I have no idea what tha friggin hell you're talking about Mams. Please translate into intelligible English.
I said Laye is screwing around again with our mail. And with Kukeh, they've been the worst managers of Ellen. Come again Mams. What "affirmation" are you talking about and what spiritual crap do you infer. In-sofar-as management is spiritual, we ought to tie the two of them together. To a gmelina tree. Under the hot Mali sun. Allez. Haruna.
-----Original Message-----
From: Edie Sidibeh <[log in to unmask]>
To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thu, Aug 12, 2010 12:13 pm
Subject: Haruna
Thanks for your affirmation Haruna "But", I quote, It is our function to rise above all sense of human hood in our relationship with each other so that we spiritually enjoy each other’s companionship, so that we enjoy the companionship of each other on purely spiritual levels, and thereby never bear witness to a fault in each other. When acting in the capacity of a practitioner or teacher to each other, we then have the right to point out any departure from a spiritual principle. But we still have no right to do it with an atmosphere of censure, or criticism, or condemnation – only with the teacher’s instinct of correction and impartation. Thanks again Edi
From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Wed, 11 August, 2010 0:49:19
Subject: Re: Good man never honoured alive
Mams, Laye is fooling around with my emails again. A friend copied me your response wondering if I am having trouble receiving my emails. Laye is the worst manager of any community I've seen. He shares that quality with Kukeh. Birds of the same feather...
Haruna.
Happy you like this one. However, I have not yet recieved my own posting or was it you who stole it and sending me your response even before recieve the original? or does my mails goes to someone else who is checking the contents then send the to me hahahah. Men send my original copy I have not yet recieve it Aaarohna damn it hard to pronounce.
-----Original Message-----
From: Edie Sidibeh <[log in to unmask]>
To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tue, Aug 10, 2010 12:02 pm
Subject: Good man never honoured alive
Now, wherever we travel, wherever we meet with students of The
Infinite Way it is our function to rise above human likes and human
dislikes, personal animosities. It is our function to rise above all
sense of human hood in our relationship with each other so that we
spiritually enjoy each other’s companionship, so that we enjoy the
companionship of each other on purely spiritual levels, and thereby
never bear witness to a fault in each other. When acting in the
capacity of a practitioner or teacher to each other, we then have the
right to point out any departure from a spiritual principle. But we
still have no right to do it with an atmosphere of censure, or
criticism, or condemnation – only with the teacher’s instinct of
correction and impartation.
“Now, we agree – and I’m speaking now not only to those sitting here
in this room, but to all the students who are listening to this on
tapes and who may some day read it in print – that we are called upon
by our teaching to go out into the world and witness sin, disease,
death, lack, limitation, wars, spiritual wickedness in high places,
and yet look through the appearance and say, “Oh no, I know thee who
thou art, the holy one of Israel.” If we can do that for the world at
large, how much more must we do it unto each other since it is we who
are upholding this banner for the world?
And if we are not united with each other, in each other, through each
other, if we are not giving to each other support – spiritual support,
mental support, physical support, financial support, whatever is
necessary at any given moment – then we are not of that band of the
spiritual brotherhood that is holding aloft the light of truth for the
world.
Certain it is that your good will be evilly spoken of. Certain it is
that on this path you will be accused of every crime in the calendar.
And the higher you go in spiritual demonstration, the more mud the
world will throw at you. And fortunate are you if those of your own
spiritual household will not misjudge you or desert you, but will hold
up your right hand – not only when you are innocent of any of the
things that the world says about you, but even in those rare instances
when you may be guilty. Do you see what I am trying to drive at – that
in our work we are the targets for materia medica, for the orthodox
ministry, for the university intellectuals, for all of those who have
not yet witnessed an activity of the Infinite Invisible?” ~Joel
From: Edie Sidibeh <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Mon, 2 August, 2010 19:46:18
Subject: Vernon Howard
"Psychic sleep is the cause of every human problem and disaster. It is sleeping people who suffer from heartache and loneliness, from fear and violence. Only self- awakening can end these sorrows. However – and please emphasize this point in your mind – man does not know he is asleep. So deep is his immersion in psychic hypnosis, that he instantly denies his actual condition. In other words, he does not know that he does not know. He spends his entire life under the gigantic illusion of being happy and productive, never once facing the terror in which he lives. Man huddles fearfully in a haunted house which he calls a castle. Have you ever been in a room full of people when someone behaved foolishly or childishly? You sensed that he did not know how he appeared to others. In fact, he may have believed he was behaving cleverly or courageously. Everyone in the room saw him as he really was, except the man himself. That is a perfect example of human hypnosis, of psychic unawareness. The ancient philosopher, Socrates, provided a classic illustration of man's mental sleep. He told about a group of men who were huddled together in a deep cave. Their only light was a fire that blazed in the center of the cavern. The fire cast strange shadows against the wall of the cave, frightening the prisoners. So the men sat there in terror and confusion. One of the prisoners made up his mind to explore the cave. When doing so, he found a secret tunnel. Following it all the way, he finally found himself in the outer world of sunshine and beauty.
"We will now look at a chief characteristic of spiritual sleep. When this is under- stood, all the pieces of life fall into place, revealing the whole picture. Man has a false idea of who he is. He has an illusory sense of identity. This false self is manufactured out of self-flattering imaginations and out of self-pleasing labels. He labels himself as a successful man, or as an intelligent thinker, or as a human being with lofty motives. But these are mere ideas he has about himself and he is not these ideas. We can easily prove this. Whenever a man feels depressed or irritated, it is simply because his false identity seems not to be confirmed. Both these reactions are false, so man is their slave. Have you ever noticed how nervous people get when their pet ideas are challenged? Let this be a clue for you. By patient self-investigation we discover who we are not, and that ends the anxiety of not knowing who we are. To summarize this vital point, man wrongly believes that he possesses a separate self, an individual ego. This false idea causes fear, loneliness, neurosis. It throws him into conflict with other people who are also under the illusion of having separate selves. No man is apart from the whole, from the all. Man is one with the universe. Human beings are like dozens of ponds, each reflecting the light from the same moon. This is not philosophy, this is fact." (from The Esoteric Path to a New Life )
......Vernon Howard
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