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You want to put up a show? For? ME?’
 You want to rap?

 Of course, I am an academic and - naturally an intellectual.
As AbdalQadir once said, “By definition, a Muslim is an intellectual” If I am not then it doesn’t bother me.

http://www.shaykhabdalqadir.com/content/index.html

 There are quite a few in my family, you know, I am not the only one. My better half , my daughters are too – both are distinguished  - one is a gold Medallist First /First in Law University of London , another with a Masters  is a well placed Civil Servant in the United Kingdom.

Here's one:
http://mccammon.ucsd.edu/~dhamelbe/resume-web.pdf

But that’s not the only company I keep.

When my son was thirteen, he was more advanced than I was at seventeen and when I was seventeen, I was at the top of what I liked – and that includes any school in Gambia. 
I’m just chatting man. I can rap too – even on my guitar.

Look I’m not an interesting person to discuss with. You want to make a name for yourself, don’t engage me. 

I was only telling you (the examiner) that I intend to start with question 12 -
and I was going to tell you about the Dhimmi status of Jews in Islamic lands, and the  occasional massacres, pogroms, but on the whole the Arabs , and Muslims treated the Jewish people much better than the Christians have done in Europe, starting with Merry England , Spain,………..

My mother tells me that I spoke Krio English and Fullah (with my girlfriend BONGOR, a neighbour’s child.)  when I was little. 
From the age of six, when I arrived in England, I lost Krio and English, although I do not remember any gradual disappearance. It was as if it was an instantaneous disappearance since there was no one that I could speak Fullah or Krio with.

Let’s not talk about mother tongues. There are many. Interest in India can take you to Sanskrit, just as I expect you to be polishing off your Arabic, the language of the Koran…


> 
> From: Momodou Buharry Gassama <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 2007/05/30 on PM 05:52:08 CEST
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Ämne: Re: Zionism
> 
> Cornelius,
>                DOUBLETHINK! DOUBLETHINK! DOUBLETHINK! You wrote:
> 
> "Which first so called answer? I am not aware of having answered any 
> of the twenty questions yet, and now, I no longer intend to do so."
> 
> You wrote earlier: 
> 
> "If it’s Ok with you, I intend to answer all the questions, but would 
> like to start with question 12,  because I’ve got the answer to the 
> first part of that question based on a lecture that I attended on 30th 
> October 2005,  by Professor Mark Cohen ( Princeton) who is an authority 
> on  that question."
> 
> Do you believe yourself? If you want to bow out because you have been 
> caught, do so with grace. (It would be sad though because now that you 
> have informed us that you are an academic and intellectual, I would 
> have loved to see your stuff) 
> 
> You wrote:
> 
> "You telling an intellectual and academic that he can’t talk. Think? I 
> have answered most of my own questions and suggest that you learn to do 
> the same – if you can, knowing as you do, and that I am not your 
> fountain of truth.
> 
>  Last book read was “For What Tomorrow” 
> 
> English is my mother tongue. "
> 
> 
> Wollof, Fula and Jahanka are my mother tongues. Then I studied 
> English. Even with English being so far down the line of learned 
> languages, I can still see the contradiction in your position. Simply 
> put, DOUBLETHINK! DOUBLETHINK! DOUBLETHINK!
>                                                                                                                                                            
> Buharry.
> 
> 
> ----Original Message----
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Date: May 30, 2007 5:04:03 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subj: Re: Zionism
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> Which first so called answer?
> 
> I am not aware of having answered any of the twenty questions yet, and 
> now, I no longer intend to do so. I may change my mind , but you too 
> must have a basic level of competence in understanding simple things. 
> 
> 
> You telling an intellectual and academic that he can’t talk. Think? I 
> have answered most of my own questions and suggest that you learn to do 
> the same – if you can, knowing as you do, and that I am not your 
> fountain of truth.
> 
>  Last book read was “For What Tomorrow” 
> 
> English is my mother tongue. I did study English, philosophy and that 
> more than anything else gave me a foundation to pursue such interests.
> 
> I just looked at this interesting item, which I’m sure will interest 
> you too.
> 
> http://www.israpundit.com/2006/?p=4853#comments
> 
> About whatever question bothers you had better look for your own 
> answers. Ask you religious leader(s), the one(s) that you follow. I 
> have grappled with problems that are much more complicated than 
> whatever it is you are trying to say. I have a pile of books, still 
> unopened, so now let me retire with this introduction by Dan Cohn-
> Sherbok that’s been on my shelf some three years now, I’ve read a 
> couple of his other books:
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Fifty-Key-Jewish-Thinkers-Cohn-
> Sherbok/dp/0415126282
> 
> I have now decided that I will not waste my time being nice.
> 
> I do not have a problem with either Islam or the Jewish people and I 
> am probably not intelligent enough to make you or anyone else 
> understand anything. I wish that I could have got across and hope that 
> you will get the answers that you seek from people much better 
> qualified to provide the answers that may satisfy you, the way that Abu 
> Wafa al-Taftanzani satisfied me in Cairo, and dispelled the last little 
> cloud that obscured my understanding. There was no beating about the 
> bush.
> 
> I don’t have any questions for Lamin Sanneh either.
> 
> So please, some people’s rigorous demands are more difficult to meet 
> than others, and here let me admit defeat, ok?
> 
> Merci.
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Date: 2007/05/30 on PM 03:19:54 CEST
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Ämne: Re: Zionism
> > 
> > Your first so-called answer to the questions is another link of 
> someone else's opinion. Still waiting for the answers.
> > 
> > Stop regurgitating the stuff you are fed and answer the questions 
> using your own opinions if you can.
> > J.Joh
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cornelius Edward Hamelberg <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Wed, 30 May 2007 3:26 am
> > Subject: Re: Zionism
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > As Habib wrote, ? i wish we all simply practice what we are thaught 
> , love for 
> > ach other respect for each other and recognizing that we will all 
> die one day.?
> > What?s all this about me not having ?own opinions ? /?only able to 
> regurgitate 
> > hat your Zionist handlers feed you and what you can google on the 
> net? Answer 
> > he questions and stop beating about the bush and spewing out 
> irrelevant 
> > ubbledeguck.?  Is that called for? What are you angry about? 
> >  ?the list of question brother Buhari sent to you for your masters 
> to answer? 
> > please relay to your bosses? etc Well, your darling Muhammad is not 
> my boss and 
> >  only have ONE BOSS  , and HE is the King of Kings of Kings.
> > I was not beaten or bullied as a child, so please don?t think that 
> you or anyone 
> > lse is about to succeed in doing that.  I was taught the very best 
> manners. I 
> > as born in Freetown, and I respect and value freedom.
> > I try to answer your questions as a courtesy, it?s part of good 
> adab. Humility 
> > oes not need a disguise ? nor does false pride, that?s why you haven?
> t read any 
> > oetry from me ? compared to what?
> > I cannot remember how I felt, what I thought, what was going on in 
> my mind, when 
> >  was tying Hazrat Agha?s shoelaces, except that  I was very happy 
> and it was a 
> > ery important job, so I did it as best I could. Tying a knot on the 
> Sabbath 
> > omes under the classification of melakhah.
> > I may  - by all standards be less educated , less vocal , and less 
> opinionated 
> > han you, and less competent  or able to think , judge, appreciate,  
> decide for 
> > yself and express myself  to others verbally or otherwise, but that?
> s not up to 
> > e to judge and no professor has ever told me that I was average. At 
> Dr. 
> > urbaksh Terry Graham told me that one has to be quick, to catch it 
> fast. Lenny 
> > hought that mosque visits were making me aggressive, because of a 
> letter I 
> > rote in Tehran Times.
> > Since I cannot share my library with you ? or the Synagogue library, 
> or any of 
> > he periodicals or Newspapers, I send you links.
> >  don?t have to, but they do contain valuable information, and as 
> for 
> > ropaganda, even the Encyclopaedia Britannica is not exempt.
> > When Amos Oz launched his autobiographical work, he was asked about 
> the 
> > esources of the Hebrew language and he more or less said that some 
> things can 
> > nly be expressed in that language. Some other Sufi-type things 
> cannot be 
> > xpressed in any language at all, at least not by me.
> > ???????????.
> > This popped up on my regular Leonenet Forum, last night and I?d like 
> to share 
> > hat too.
> > ot that I don?t have an opinion about it, I do, I have an opinion 
> (my own) 
> > bout everything. And know some guys in Ghana and Nigeria, who are 
> bigger and 
> > uch more opinionated than your Yaya.
> > hat too was an opinion:
> > From our Sierra Leone Forum (I?ve taken the liberty to share or 
> would you prefer 
> > hat I whisper it in your ear? I?m sharing it here, because yesterday 
> my two 
> > ast postings were rejected.  I only posted seven items yesterday, 
> and I think 
> > hat?s the maximum allowed in one day. SO I have to be economical and 
> that?s why 
> > t?s here (so that those who were foaming in the mouth about Paul 
> Wolfowitz can 
> > oam some more about even this:
> > ? Released for the 50th anniversary of Ghana ?s independence from 
> British 
> > olonial rule, the film, Damned by Debt Relief, puts real freedom, 
> independence 
> > nd serious development on the map. 
> > Shot in Ghana, the film is a stark reminder of the devastating 
> conditions 
> > ttached to debt relief following the G8 Gleneagles deal in 2005, not 
> least the 
> > enial of autonomy, degradation of democracy and low horizons 
> enshrined in so 
> > alled "poverty reduction" strategies.?
> > The video:
> > 
> > www.worldwrite. org.uk/damned 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> >  From: [log in to unmask]
> >  Date: 2007/05/30 on AM 04:22:27 CEST
> >  To: [log in to unmask]
> >  Ämne: Re: Zionism as a Racist Ideology/ what's the matter 
> Cornelius?
> >  
> >    What's the matter Corneluis, you do not have your own opinions? 
> Are you only 
> > ble to regurgitate what your Zionist handlers feed you and what you 
> can google 
> > n the net?
> >   Answer the questions and stop beating about the bush and spewing 
> out 
> > rrelevant gubbledeguck.
> >   J.Joh
> >   
> >      
> > 
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