Thank you Kalilu and Pasamba for the information about Yaya's unchanged cold
heart.   To be honest with you guys, I felt the same way about him and was
therefore, surprised about the information concerning his change of heart.
That was why I needed clarification.

Ramatoulie

>From: kalilu camara <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: NY's Demonstration prove to be effective! Yaya is changing?
>Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 22:34:11 GMT
>
>Ramatoulie,
>This guy is very illusive.Last year after the UN meeting, Mr.Jammeh met
>with
>concerned citizens he went to Banjul and temporarily dissolve the infamous
>'youth wing of july 24',just to praise them in his sixth feet deep speech
>at
>the state house just months before meeting the united nations this year.
>Many of us were dumb found to know that this group is still operational in
>the Gambia.Which he vowed to dissolve for good.
>I hope that he changes because its very apparent by his initiative or
>Gods our land will see better days,when each Gambian life is respected
>and Gambian children will not look next door and wish they had the peace
>and freedom found in Dakar Senegal.
>     More than i hope for Jammehs temporal miraclous change,i hope that
>the few Gambians muslims that have what it takes will tie him down and
>transport him to mecca in secrete that he may have his 'will' to be close
>to
>Allah. And perhaps pray and fast for a week that he may see that he is not
>Rasululie or anyone close to HIM! Most of his miscalculations are fed to
>him
>by deranged dancers and pysdo intelectuals who have lost their power to
>compassionate for others.
>     Their hearts either numbed by experience or lost in religious
>fanatism and imagined rewards will not open to see that it matters what we
>do on to each other right here on earth!
>     Like the Nazi murderers they site fear and chain of command to blow
>their younger brothers out of the face of the only existence
>they got.
>     Tell you the truth it will take Gambians to change Gambia the only
>change Mr Jammeh knows how is to change title and clothing and other
>peoples
>jobs.The only problem with his way of changing titles is he only know to go
>up the ladder when it comes to pampering himself.
>      My only fear is if one of these days he gets up and call himself
>Allah! That Gambians close to him will not believe and start worshiping him
>by looking upwards instead of the right way handed down to us!
>
>                               kalilu
>
>
>
>>From: Ramatoulie Gillen <[log in to unmask]>
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>>Subject: NY's Demonstration prove to be effective! Yaya is changing?
>>Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 04:19:03 GMT
>>
>>According to sources, after the New York incident, Yaya returned home and
>>gave students twelve school buses.  He then held a meeting claiming that
>>from now on, his interest is the happiness of the students. He promised
>>that
>>students and especially women shall not be hurt or killed under any
>>circumstances. This last statement was particularly addressed to his crew.
>>Is this true?
>>
>>Ramatoulie
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: Ramatoulie Gillen <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
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>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: Re: BARRY'S DEATH WAS CAUSED BY A CHRONIC DISEASE
>>>Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 03:15:50 GMT
>>>
>>>There is no need to waste time figuring out What killed Ebrima Barry. We
>>>all
>>>know that he was severally beaten to death by Yaya and his executioners.
>>>We
>>>also know that all the authorities involve in this case, including the
>>>coroner, the judge and prosecutors are terrorized and tamed by Yaya and
>>>his
>>>murderers.  It is sad, but we will unjustly loose this case.
>>>
>>>The question is how do we eliminate Yaya Jammeh, so that there will be no
>>>more death Gambians.  So far there is optimism in our efforts, but as we
>>>all
>>>know, it's not enough.
>>>
>>>Ramatoulie: gambian.com's anchor
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>Subject: BARRY'S DEATH WAS CAUSED BY A CHRONIC DISEASE
>>>>Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:23:57 EDT
>>>>
>>>>Please see the following report from the Independent. I cannot believe
>>>>this.
>>>>Please let someone tell me that this is not about to happen. The
>>>>authorities
>>>>are not about to cover this case up. They murdered poor Ebrima Barry and
>>>>now
>>>>some corrupt doctors are trying to cook up some fishy cause of death. I
>>>>hope
>>>>the Cuban doctors that participated in the autopsy will also be called
>>>>to
>>>>testify under rigorous examination. This is pathetic. Where is this Dr.
>>>>Sam
>>>>character from? I am not a doctor but I would have thought that if
>>>>Ebrima
>>>>Barry had such a chronic illness, serious enough to cause his death, the
>>>>symptoms of the illness would have manifested itself to his family and
>>>>friends. I hope the journalists made a mistake in their reporting
>>>>because
>>>>I
>>>>just cannot figure out how someone can call himself a doctor and then
>>>>make
>>>>such ridiculous medical conclusions. This is outrageous and I must say
>>>>that
>>>>the government is toying with another demonstration. Their bogus
>>>>commission
>>>>of inquiry report should teach them that the April 10 and 11 incidents
>>>>occurred because the Gambian public was denied justice in the Ebrima
>>>>Barry
>>>>case. They are trying very hard to repeat the same mistake. Commonsense
>>>>tells us that Ebrima Barry was murdered by those firemen. So why are the
>>>>authorities going to such lengths to try and ensure that the firemen go
>>>>unpunished for their crimes? I hope the prosecutor in this case
>>>>(hand-picked
>>>>by Secka) counters Dr. Sam's dubious testimony with expert testimony
>>>>showing
>>>>that Ebrima Barry's death could not have been caused by what Dr. Sam and
>>>>those Cuban doctors are saying. The prosecutor should do some research
>>>>on
>>>>the symptoms of chronic hepatitis and check whether Ebrima Barry
>>>>suffered
>>>>from such symptoms prior to his murder. This is insane. Surely the
>>>>beating
>>>>and the torture Ebrima Barry sustained had something to do with his
>>>>death.
>>>>Even if Barry had an existing illness, that does not absolve his
>>>>attackers
>>>>from culpability. Even novice lawyers (let alone judges) are aware of
>>>>the
>>>>legal maxim that 'you should take your victim as you find him'. Meaning,
>>>>even if Barry had hepatitis and was killed by a blow which would not
>>>>kill
>>>>a
>>>>person that does not suffer from such ailment, his attackers would still
>>>>be
>>>>guilty of murder. What these slimy characters are trying to do is to
>>>>neutralize that maxim and declare hepatitis as the sole cause of death,
>>>>as
>>>>opposed to a catalyst. For starters, prosecutors have to challenge the
>>>>conclusion of Dr. Sam that Barry suffered from chronic hepatitis. If Sam
>>>>turn out to be right, the prosecutor should surely be able to prove that
>>>>hepatitis was not the sole cause of death. The blows Barry sustained as
>>>>the
>>>>result of the torture, was the cause of death. Albeit, hepatitis might
>>>>have
>>>>played a role. This is simply unbelievable. Especially if you take into
>>>>consideration the fact the Sam was probably a prosecution witness. You
>>>>have
>>>>government officials coming in to sabotage the government's (the
>>>>people's)
>>>>case. Only in Gambia.
>>>>KB
>>>>_______________________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>BARRY'S DEATH WAS CAUSED BY A CHRONIC DISEASE
>>>>- says chief pathologist
>>>>
>>>>The chief pathologist at the Royal Victoria Hospital Dr. Thomas Sam has
>>>>told
>>>>the High Court that the late Ebrima Barry's death was caused by a
>>>>chronic
>>>>hepatitis of about six months old.
>>>>
>>>>Dr. Sam was giving evidence on the post mortem report made on Ebrima
>>>>Barry
>>>>after his death in March 2000 by Dr. Raphael of the Cuban medical team.
>>>>Dr.
>>>>Sam said that when he returned from a trip to South Africa, a report was
>>>>passed on to him, which he said was made in two stages, the preliminary
>>>>and
>>>>the final.
>>>>
>>>>He said the preliminary stage was based on what was observed by the
>>>>naked
>>>>eye while the final was based on a microscopic study carried out by two
>>>>Cuban doctors and himself as the head of the unit. Dr. Sam further told
>>>>the
>>>>court that the report showed excessive bleeding from the liver which he
>>>>said
>>>>led to a blockage of the blood flow in the lungs. He said it was due to
>>>>the
>>>>blockage of the blood flow which led to Barry's death, which he said is
>>>>normally caused by serious chronic diseases. He however expressed
>>>>surprise
>>>>that Ebrima Barry was able to be walking about with such a disease.
>>>>
>>>>Ebrima Barry died on March 9, 2000 while he was student at Forster's
>>>>Technical School in Brikama. He was said to have had some problems with
>>>>his
>>>>teacher who allegedly reported the matter to the Fire Brigade office in
>>>>Brikama where some firemen allegedly subjected him to some beating and
>>>>torture, which allegedly resulted in his death.
>>>>
>>>>His death was one of the reasons that led to a confrontation between the
>>>>Gambia Students Union (GAMSU) and the authorities calumniating in the
>>>>bloody
>>>>student disturbances of April 10th and 11th 2000 leading to the death of
>>>>more than 14 school children and the maiming of several more as well as
>>>>heavy destruction to property.
>>>>
>>>>The case was presided over Justice T.A Kabalata while the state was
>>>>represented by an independent prosecutor Nosa Avan and the fire officers
>>>>accused of Ebrima Barry's murder were represented by Lamin Jobarteh, a
>>>>private legal practitioner. The case was adjourned to September 28.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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