"Gamtel's Senior Planner Uses Company's Time and Resources To Peddle Lies On The Gambia And Related Issues Mailing List"

Does this sound like a newspaper headline to you, huh? Who's got the Independent Newpaper's e-mail address, anyone? I'm sure Gamtel would like
to be CC'ed on our petition, what y'all think folks? I think it's time to ruffle Jungle's feathers a little. I find NOTHING titillating about his shenanigans. Since he only cares about his pocket book so much so that he doesn't mind when children as young as THREE years are being massacred by his partners-in-crime, I say let's go after him where it hurts the most. Get my drift? Like I said, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Hope you understand a thing or two about corporate integrity, confidentiality agreement and so forth..I suggest you revisit your employee manual because very soon Gamtel will be asking you a LOT of questions. Watch this space Senior Planner/APRC Jaliba. Mind you, this NOT a threat. Just looking after the interest of our nation, and as stakeholders, protecting the indelible image Gamtel tried so hard to maintain in this Global economy. I hope we understand each other..Got it? wink:-)!


george sarr <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Jungle Sunrise,
>  Whoever said you have the prerequisite skills to cut the guts out of Mr
>Sambou's gut-wrenching piece? That is pure intellectual dishonesty. How dare you, you corporate lackey?
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>Act as if you never saw KB's piece on what I called 'Reality 101' in the Gambia. We recognize selective amnesia when we see one, but of course it is your prerogative to cherry-pick less challenging issues you feel most comfortable with. It just goes to show how low you lackeys are willing to stoop. Grown people emasculated to the extent that they will rather sin and repent to God, than risk telling Jammeh he failed his people. He's got all of you puppeteers by the balls. How terribly sad? Yuk!
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>BTW, I came across your new and upcoming company website (http://www.gamtel.gm/main.html), and I must say that the mediocrity evinced by the author (Sylvia Blyden-no fault of his own) is a reflection
>of the price you pay when you have Senor Planners named Jungle Sunrise. That I was profusely diassapointed with the design is putting it mildly. This once prestigious company deserves a better website. But of course when you have their Senior Planner busy promoting Jammeh(NOT Gamtel products & Services), overseeing the task of building a successfull top-notch interactive revenue driving e-commerce site never gets the attention and brain power it requires. Instead you have Jungle Sunrise using the company time and resources defending the miscreants of our despotic government. Perhaps we should file a complaint against Mr Sunrise to his employer because I'm sure they will be curious to know how anyone can spend all this time and energy and ever get anything DONE at work. Had this were to be another civil servant working for the same company, doing the same thing as Sunrise, but only this time he is a UDP, PDOIS or NRP staunch supporter; his rear end would have been fired and worst incarcerated at Mile II in a heartbeat. Sunrise can't have his cake and it too. You either work for Gamtel or the Jammeh government. He is so preoccupied with ass-kissing that the vermin doen't even know the difference between 'anologue' and 'digital'. And he is a freaking Engineer! Well, even that remains to be  another topic, which is best left alone. Anyway, for what it's worth, I've reproduced below Joe Sambou's piece in it's ENTIRETY. I want Mr Sunrise to pay close attention to the second paragraph. How he seemed to missed it is beyond me. Here it is :
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>Joe Sambou wrote:
>  Brother Gassama, thanks for your thoughts regarding the state of our nation. However, what is the point you're trying to make here? I know you understand that in matters of nation building, certain things are standard upon which to build upon. One does not get points for building schools, hospitals, drum up business, provide safe and clean water, etc. These belong to ground zero and anything less is unacceptable. I believe you also understand that the voices raised against this government believes that we should be ahead of where we are today as a nation. Gambians are past the point of comparing Jammeh to Jawara, for that is not feeding the poor, healing the sick, and improving our living standard as a people. One takes a move for the better and not the worst. With a new administration, Gambians expected a Gambia against corruption and nepotism; freedom of expression for all; better standard of living; reduction in poverty etc.
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>On the contrary, there is massive looting of our coffers and all one needs to do is be a griot to the powers to be preferred for a position. The private press, opposition sympathizers, students and anyone dare to speak up is muzzled. Our people are poorer as I write - not you Gassama and myself, and the few well off (Gambian Standard) folks, but the mass of Gambians without education; that are unemployed; that are sick; that cannot provide food for their families, let alone pay D500 to attend a "Praise Singing Buffet", etc.. That is what some of us are talking about - improving the lives of those at the bottom. You also know that folks on this list visit Gambia regularly and for people to assume that folks do not know the reality in that country is far from the truth. Most of the private development you talked about is funded by these very folks you do battle with on this list. The reason why you do not have a riot on your doorstep today is partly because Gambians on the outside are funding the survival of the masses of our population. I know you know all these things. As Gambians, you and I should not champion the cause of anyone, not even the President, but a better Gambia for all. Individuals come and go, but the nation remains. I respect your vision and your enthusiasm in the development of our nation, but I also hope that you address our short comings with the same vigor as you do our strengths. None of us on the outside and you on the ground are paid to sit on our keyboards to discuss the state of our nation. I know countless others out here that think that anything Gambian is a lost cause and therefore, do not bother subscribing to the L or even try to relate to our plight. They are living comfortable lives and Gambia is the last thing they care about. It is not that they do not have a keyboard. They just do not care. The one thing we all on this list have in common is that we care. If you feel that Gambia has arrived and another Gambian feels that we ought to do much better, I see no reason to think that the latter's logic is twisted. Let's build upon what we have in common
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>Jungle Sunrise <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>Joe,nbsp;I would like to, first of all, apologise for the delay in getting back to you. It couldn't be helped.
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>>"Brother Gassama, thanks for your thoughts regarding the state of our nation.nbsp;However, what is the point you're trying to make here? I know you understand that in matters of nation building, certain things are standard upon which to build upon. One does not get points for building schools, hospitals, drum up business, provide safe and clean water, etc. These belong to ground zero and anything less is unacceptable. I believe you also understand that the voices raised against this government believes that we should be ahead of where we are today as a nation. Gambians are past the point of comparing Jammeh to Jawara, for that is not feeding the poor, healing the sick, and improving our living standard as a people. One takes a move for the better and not the worst. With a new administration, Gambians expected a Gambia against corruption and nepotism; freedom of expression for all; better standard of living; reduction in poverty etc.
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>>On the contrary, there is massive looting of our coffers and all one needs to do is be a griot to the powers to be preferred for a position."
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>>Joe, whereas I do not have a lot of qualms with the above, the degree to which I agree with the various issues contained therein varies accordingly. For instance,nbsp;I do not accept the hopelessness which you seem to believe is widespread in the country. This is however not to say that our situation is all roses. That would be too far-fetched. I also strongly believe that most governments throughout the world are led by people whose perception of what development entails very much determine the type of development that takes place. As I write this, I can only use the Jawara regime for any meaninful comparison with what prevails today. As such, I would not hesitate to give credit where credit is due, and this goes for both regimes. It may be desirable that our elected leaders to develop our countries without anyone telling them how or congratulating them when they do, the reality throughout the world and particularly the third world. The misery we find ourselves in is not the making of only a previlleged few. We are all accomplishes because some of us who are very vocal here criticising those in the public domain are the same people who would rather die than be seen to serve the public. How many times do we hear people say, I will never work for government? How many times do we hear people say that they will never participate in politics, become lawyers etc? Plenty of times, if ou ask me.
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>>Another issue to look at rationally is that ofnbsp;corruption. Do you want to tell me that you do not recall the days when hardly a month passed when someone is said to havenbsp;stolen massive sums of moneynbsp;from government coffers? How many do you recall as having been dealt with accordingly. In fact I dare say that most were just moved to other posts or simply retired. Daylight robery as was very prevalent during the first republic is almost a thing of the past!
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>>The last point you made concerning cronism is also not unique to this government. It has happened in the past, is happening right nownbsp;and will continue to happen in the future unless our collective efforts of providing the right atmosphere whereby people do not have to rely so heavily on those in power to make ends meet. This in my opinion can only happen if certain infrastructures are put in place and our attitudes change from that of over-dependency to that of self-reliance. This will however not happen if peoplenbsp;do not have hope. Access to education, health facilities, energy, good roads etc,nbsp; is giving us all a lot ofnbsp;nbsp;hope. This hope is absolutely necessary to keep us going.
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>>Like I have stated before, some of the developmentsnbsp;I harp onnbsp;continuously has very little direct benefit to me or my immediate family. Take for instance,nbsp;a school built in Sutukoba, in the URD. This school is very unlikely to directlynbsp;benefit me or any member of my immediate family right now. However, can I rule out the possibility of that school producing a heart surgeon or Doctor who might attend to me or a member of my immediate family later in life? Absolutely NO! Can I categorically say that that school will never produce a lawyernbsp;whose services I or a member of my immediate family might need I future? Again the answer is NO!
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>>Whatnbsp;I detest from some quarters is the persistent potrayal of the whole country as hell. These are peddled by some whose only motive is to be seen to be anti-Jammeh and not knowing that some of the things written in media like the L donbsp;have significant ramifications. Because of that I will continue to counter those who make it their daily duty to constantly look fornbsp;negative information about the country in order to make us look bad and hopeless. This is not about caring for the country and is counter productive. It does a lot of diservice to our people and country. I strongly believe that people withnbsp;legitimate concerns about what prevails in the country now should share them with us so that at the end of the day we may be able to offer solutions that may help us improve our lot and not to worsen it.
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>>Have a good day, Gassa.nbsp;
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