Demba
June 21
Burama
On May 29, 2014, at 12:39 AM, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Burama,
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> We had several sessions and I didn't realize you needed a 1:1. All the same let's target weekend of June 21st or 22nd. I have other commitments out of town for the next two weekends with family. Let me know if the 21st or 22nd work for you 12pm Pacific 3:00pm Eastern would work fine for me.
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> I look forward to it.
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> Thanks
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> Demba
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> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Demba
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> Make the calling. I'll surely present my views on any matter Gambia. In fact I supposed there is nothing unknown to yourself.
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> The challenges and difficulties are very rooted in our past. That past is PPP. PPP was not only a political party but also both a socio-culture and socio-economics. The understanding is very relevant not for name calling but making tomorrow better. Denials and minimization is an err.
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> We need to overhaul the structure along side social reorientation. Tinkering and massaging the edges will produce continuation with another person at the helm.
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> I have asked you to give me chance to present my case to the nation without much panel interruptions. Still waiting for your invite.
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> I'll break the convolution into bite side pieces and suggest the logical, practical and political entry point. I will show how it should and can be made a nation fight. Tell the organizational development needs and identify roles of every individual along the way. Surely a time consuming and expensive preposition but there is no shortcut.
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> I also want us to reduce our focus on Yahya as a person and to Gambia (as ours). What we will do and if done right will make Yahya and/or any person in Banjul at the time inconsequential. The consequential will be the people.
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> We have a fight. It's a difficult fight because we have to fight ourselves. It's culture! It's economics! It's religion! It's trade! Actually is the mindset of the average Gambia.
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> What you and me supposedly want will not come and sustain until majority of our compatriots have a requisite capacity.
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> Regards
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> Burama
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> On Wednesday, May 28, 2014, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Guys,
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> I still think you can go ahead and discuss this topic... We should move it from the name calling and labeling the former government dictatorship to discussing how some of the policies that Burama think made Jawara "dictator" can be enhance and changed in a new Gambia? How difficult was it or is it to change those policies.. How can we continue to challenge the status quo and mobilize our people and give them hope that change can come to Gambia... The discussion can be swayed to a more substantive issues..
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> Thanks
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> Demba
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> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Krubally
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> You said I broke the gentlemen agreement by discussing the topic with another host. I apologized on the grounds that I didn't thought I was in a binding agreement that I couldn't talk elsewhere. Regardless I said sorry. Am sincere saying sorry!
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> I don't think this topic is exhaustive. This is not about faulting PPP and/or humiliating those who might be professionally or personally close to Jawara/PPP. This is about understanding our past in order to perfect the future. Denial and/or minimizing is a mistake. Comparison to Yahya is not helpful because both are not the yardstick.
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> I was astonished how some came dismissive as irrelevant. It still beg the larger question for me what are we fighting for. I have pursued this question at any opportunity and it appears we are disinterested and/or with a hidden agenda. Both are not helpful.
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> To be honest my suspicion is some want us fight for return of Jawara's Gambia, hate of Yahya or want of our person choice to go to the helm. No of these are legitimate cause for me.
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> In addition I believed this is partly why we couldn't so far make appreciable gains on Yahya.
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> Anyway am ready to discuss any topic on Gambia. I'll do so by presenting facts where they are available and also opine my views.
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> Again I apologize for breaking away from your understanding of our agreement. I didn't meant to, I only have a different understanding.
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> Regards
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> Burama
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> On Wednesday, May 28, 2014, M B K <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> King Bamba and Burama, I think we have beaten this topic to death and Burama have already granted an interview to another radio station about this matter. It has also been discussed heavily on social media.
> I suggest we look for another good topic to discuss.
> I doubt if there are any more relevant points to discuss about this topic.
> Moving forward, Burama and I have agreed to not grant interviews on topics we agreed to debate with another host. Hope you understand.
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> MB Krubally
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On May 28, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> Bamba
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>> I would suggest you define the topic. Am participating to support my assertion that Jawara's was a dictator.
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>> We ought to establish what's that word. Then discuss what Jawara did or did not.
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>> What others opine is not definition. What others believe is no definition. What the popular/not populate sentiment are no definition. This is a fact base subject matter - meaning of dictator vs Jawara's rule.
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>> I am suggesting these because people have used opinions, comparisons, etc. if we go down that road it will be a wild goose chase.
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>> What does it mean - dictator
>> What Jawara did or not
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>> Am open to discuss anything Gambia but let that be a known case.
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>> Regards
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>> Burama
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>> On Wednesday, May 28, 2014, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Bamba
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>> Whenever you're ready simply give a call
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>> Burama
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>> On Wednesday, May 28, 2014, Bamba sering Manka Mass <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> MBK
>> I have just mailed Mr. B Jammeh. I am ready to host the debate. Would tomorrow 19.00pm UK time be suitable let me know. Alternatively, choose your own dates and times then we can discuss which suits both of us.
>> Thanks
>> Bamba Sering Mass
>> Khadimu Rasul.x
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>> --- Original Message ---
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>> From: "M B K" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: 25 May 2014 19:04
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Shou
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