Mawdo Demba,
Again we can agree or disagree but the fact still remains and I want to make emphasis that criticisms are part of any struggle but that as you said are different from attacks.
I agree with you but read some so called criticisms and honestly tell me if they are constructive criticisms or insults? I agree with your notion that you did not belong to the group but are Merely an observer fine but except you tell people that, anyone who sees your name listed would count you is as a member except you explained otherwise. But all the same we disagree to agree which is good.
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Minister of Youths and Sports: Mr Sada Njie as you claimed.
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On 7 Nov 2012, at 20:04, "Demba Baldeh" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Thanks Mawdo Bamba, you stated "Same problems you think affects the NTCG credibility field are the very same I find questionable with your resent formed so called faction group but despite my doubts with your group, I did not come after it like an angry wolf of Pa Saikou and co's type.
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> Bamba you alluded to this during our interview and I did not challenge you on it because I thought you were making a general statement. For the record I am not officially part of any group other than Gainako and GPU- USA at this point. I get invited to some group meetings such as STGDP, DUGA, and C70 as a member of the media. I mentioned in everyone of these groups that I am there as an independent citizen from the media and will hold people accountable. So the group I assumed you are talking about is the one discussing the "national conference in Senegal" am not a member of that group. I was invited just like hundreds of other Gambians.
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> In addition, we should be able to separate between criticizing a group and hating the group. As citizens we must be able to criticize other people and groups without being seen as hateful. That is the kind of democracy and dialogue we must embrace as citizens. So just because people criticize NTCG doesn't mean they hate the group. In fact we should all embrace constructive criticism and be open to answer questions either we agree or not.
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> We criticize Jammeh everyday so we should be open to it else we risk being as dictatorial as he is. I hope you will be more open to questions about NTCG without being dismissive.
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> thanks
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> Demba
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> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Bamba sering Manka Mass <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Mawdo Demba,
>> You have made some valid points but unfortunately you despite your intelligence failed to notice my point raised at brother Pa Saikou Kujabi and co. I belief I my belong to the uninformed when it comes to leadership criteria but where I fail in such field, many amongst us would stumble.
>> You guys arguments are subject to third party opinion because the Same problems you think affects the NTCG credibility field are the very same I find questionable with your resent formed so called faction group but despite my doubts with your group, I did not come after it like an angry wolf of Pa Saikou and co's type. I kept my distance Hoping and praying that you proof me wrong. For in my view any factional group is better than Jammeh and for some very low minded individuals to come with their vile messages full of hate for fellow comrades in the struggle is beyond me though I do never take most of them any seriously. Gambia during our interview I told you has serious problems and one of them is this and unless we see each other as partners not rivals. The only people to pay the prices of those hate attacks are the Gambian people our own people. Who knows with dialogue, you might lower my doubts about your group and even possibly convince me over. You and I know that is never possible in the hostile environment some people like Pa Saikou and co want Gambians to remain. If they succeed, the only winner would be no other than Yahya Jammeh a man he fought with all his might and failed to even push an inch. He know what I am talking about. Some Gambians I respect let me down big time.
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 7 Nov 2012, at 17:51, "Demba Baldeh" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>> Brother Bamba,
>>> I agree that NTCG should not be linked to Kibaaronews for the reasons stated. I also believe that it is upto team Kibaaro to distance itself not only in words but actions anything NTCG. The line can be too blurry sometimes and that creates doubts and questions.
>>> On the other hand, the line of work we are in is very peculiar. The slightest mistake we make it comes back to hunt us. My only qualm with the alleged interview with Jammeh is that the quality is simply very poor and the editorial team could have considered that. I didn't see the payoff to put up an interview with Jammeh that is questionable. We always earn respect for being original no matter the content.
>>> Finally, I join others in giving the NTCG the benefit of the doubt and like many Gambians would like to learn more about them and see where and what they have in stock. Many people are turned off by NTCG because of the way they roll out their list without consulting people.. and the quality of their press releases. If you look at the content and presentation of the press statements, it leaves a lot to be desired.
>>> Mediocrity has been the order of the day in Gambia today because the bar has been lowered so low by President Jammeh and his team. But that does not mean he needs to be replaced by another mediocrity that can only take our country back. At the very least someone needs to look at those press releases and demand quality. I understand language barrier may be an issue and that speaks volume to qualification for leadership. Communication is number one in leadership....
>>> We must aim to be better than those we aim to replace... just by two cents..
>>> Demba
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 4:15 AM, Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> It may not be intended deception, but the interviewee does not certainly have Yaya Jammehs peculiar female voice. My other half and I debated this voice issue but as the speaker kept saying, he is not the head of state, we concluded. It seems since the Freedom interview with the Vice President, Kibaroo news are bent on having the bigger fish to talk more nonsense, to what benefit, I do not know as we all know the stance of Yaya Jammeh on issues being discussed with the interviewee.
>>>>
>>>> Kejau
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>>>> >
>>>> > Folks,I belief some of you have some personal case against NTCG? What has
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > kibaaronews interview to dowith NTCG Pa Saikou and co? Have you forgotten
>>>> > that Kibaarnews has more than nine officials and only four are members of
>>>> > NTCG? would it be fair to non members of the NTCG who are Kibaaronews
>>>> > staff if you folks associate everyone of us as NTCG. I honestly belief
>>>> > most of you are intelligent and responsible people of our society but
>>>> > don't you think sometimes hate can cause shallow mindedness?The said
>>>>
>>>> > interview you would be surprised to find out that many staff of Kibaaronew
>>>> > shared your views that the speaker was not Yahya Jammeh or doesnot sound
>>>> > like him but the fact still remains. The phone number I can now certainly
>>>> > confirm is Yahya Jammeh's number infact someone close to him confirmed
>>>> > that it was his brother who answers that Phone most of the time. Now has
>>>> > this not instead of you attacking NTCG appealed to you that the mad Dog
>>>> > could be listening on the other end and sometimes making some underground
>>>> > comments that are mostly repeated by the speaker? That if true shows the
>>>> > Ndongo nature of the Gambian Tyrant but chei Gambia instead of broad
>>>> > mindedness we shall continue infighting until Yahya finishes killing us
>>>> > one by one.It is really a shame with all the talents we have!
>>>> >
>>>> > king
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> > Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:06:21 -0800
>>>> >
>>>> From: [log in to unmask]
>>>> > Subject: Re: Kibaro News' interview with Yaya Jammeh.
>>>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> >
>>>> > Yero,
>>>> > Well said. I haven't seen a thread of sense and difference between these
>>>> > folks and Yaya. Just like Yaya, the members of the so called NTCG see the
>>>> > rest of Gambians as idiots who will take whatever crap is thrown at them.
>>>> > I concur with your analysis, Yero. As the end of the NTCG's ultimatum to
>>>> > Yaya is fast approaching, why would anyone wanna to talk to him? In this
>>>> > day and age, one cannot hide from people, let alone one's self. As I
>>>> > indicated earlier, I think this is just a cheap popularity campaign by Mr.
>>>> > Bayo and co. Again, I have to agree with you and Joe that Yaya is not
>>>> > moving an inch, for he just have nowhere to go. He is safer in The
>>>> > Gambia(State House) and Kaninglai than anywhere else on this planet. Make
>>>> > no mistake about it though, he is armed to the teeth, and his thugs will
>>>> > not hesitate for a second to
>>>> > slaughter innocent Gambians to the graves.
>>>> > U.S. Elections
>>>> > We better not have a repeat of the 2000 Al Gore V. George W. Bush post
>>>> > election gridlock between Barrack Obama and Mitt Romney. This undermines
>>>> > the credibility of the United States' democratic system, thus rendering
>>>> > talking points to tyrants like Yaya. We have already heard reports of
>>>> > voter suppression in Florida and Ohio. I am very concerned. I know my vote
>>>> > has already been counted!!! They better!!!
>>>> > A Palace coup? Most likely. By his Jola tribesmen? No doubt. I hope I am
>>>> > wrong.
>>>> > Pa. Saikou Kujabi.
>>>> >
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