Haruna

Nyang misunderstood the heading. This is why I did not response to him. He
is living in a bobble, I pray he stays there for a long time to come. The
exaggerations of one's abilities is nothing new, in fact Nyang seems
convinced that, he is the next good thing to happen to PDOIS, I wish him
good luck in his hype.
Suntou

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>  [In a message dated 5/4/2010 1:19:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
> Uncle, As brilliant as you always appear to be I am disappointed after
> reading your first comment to Mathew’s writing that you have fallen to
> Suntou’s level.] Modou Nyang
>
> 1. Brilliance is in the eye of the beholder.
> 2. I suppose you will share with us what about my first comment to Mathew's
> editorial seems to give you so much disquiet. While you're at it, why did
> you not share your disquiet when I issued those first comments? Did I make
> you uncomfortable with the current comments that you sent this nonsense on
> as rider?
>
> [What has happened to my elders? Your generation is indeed a failed
> generation? Mathew said Ousainou is a lesser evil to Halifa.] Modou Nyang.
>
> So Mathew said Ousainou is a lesser evil than Halifa.
>
> [Instead of feeling insulted by a loner who currently has no link to the
> Gambia and the Gambian people,]Modou Nyang.
>
> Why are you telling me how I should FEEL about a fellow citizen Dad? Is
> that what you're taught in the Big Dinko? I happen NOT to share your
> arsenine view of Mathew. This is because for you the Gambian people are all
> in the Big Dinko in PDOIS with you. Why would Mathew want to have any link
> with such losers?
>
> [a hater of every achiever] Modou Nyang.
>
> Again, I have no reason to believe Mathew hates achievers. It would not
> make sense for an overachiever to hate achievers. So excuse me if I can't
> hate Mathew just because you do.
>
> [you are jubilating that your leader is a evil but is a lesser evil.] Modou
> Nyang.
>
> First of all Nyang, I think your priorities and compass are totally screwed
> up. Forget for a moment about whether Haruna jubilates at someone being
> called evil or lesser evil. How can Mathew calling someone good or evil make
> them good or evil???????????????????????????????????????
> Secondly, why did NYANG not respond to Mathew calling Halifa or Ousainou
> evil or lesser evils??????????????????????
> Thirdly, and most critically, I suppose you will share with us where your
> best uncle Haruna even remotely appeared jubilant about Mathew's personal
> opinion, which he is entitled to?????????? YTou people are sick. And we're
> onto you. You can't play victim anymore to steal, kill, and maim your fellow
> citizens.
>
> [Your party has definitely lost self esteem and you its advocates do not
> have any dignity left to inspire my generation of Gambians who PDOIS has
> taught to value our sovereignty and dignity.] Modou Nyang
>
> 1. I do not belong to any party.
> 2. I do not aim to inspire you. That is what your family and friends are
> for.
> 3. Do you not get enough inspiration from PDOIS? in the Big
> Dinko??????????? WHy would you need me for inspiration?
>
> [Keep praising Mathew who is hiding behind tribe to mask his hatred for
> every Gambian who is an asset to the Nation, the egg will soon be cracked on
> your very heads by a person who steal others analysis to distort them for
> his own vain attempt to appear as an intellectual.] Modou Nyang.
>
> It seems to me your problem is with Mathew. I think the Gambiaecho is
> liberal about publishing counter-arguments to editorials. So which Gambian
> is an asset to the Nation and which Gambian is not????????? This is why I
> say your compass is all screwed up. The character and real vision of you
> PDOISards will become apparent as time goes on. I encourage you to talk some
> more.
>
> [This is the first time I have heard of an intellectual who would preach
> the eradication of books from our school system and replace them with sound
> bites.] Modou Nyang.
>
> Sounds like a personal problem of yours to me. What do you want me to
> do?????
>
> [Uncle you people have made my day. Now Gambians in the Diaspora can easily
> detect your loss of hope and self esteem.] Modou Nyang.
>
> Loss of hope and self-esteem seems to me too personal a problem of other
> for you to worry about Dad.
>
> [This is why you are jubilating for your leader being classified as a
> lesser evil.] Modou Nyang.
>
> Modou, Modou, unless you show us where Haruna jubilated about anyone being
> called evil or a lesser one, you would be peddling a lie as is customary for
> you. You could remove all doubts by simply sharing where I jubilated over
> Mathew's notes? It could very well be another event where the English
> Language poses monumental problems for you.
>
> [We who have high esteem will make cyberspace an uncomfortable place for
> the hater to unleash his evil designs.] Modou Nyang.
>
> What do you have high esteem for Modou? This is why the semi-literate is
> more a danger to him/herself than others. You do not have the gravitas or
> moral temperance to label Mathew a hater.
>
> [Only an evil person could paint good to be evil and evil to be good.]
> Modou Nyang.
>
> Here's you trying to paint Mathew as evil. I'm sure you will allow the rest
> of us to make up our mind about Mathew.
>
> [And Only their accomplices will jubilate at their evil designs.] Modou
> Nyang.
>
> And the ACCOMPLICES have that right should they choose to
> correct???????????????
>
> [Deception is no longer possible.] Modou Nyang.
>
> Tell me about it.
> Haruna.
>
> --- On *Tue, 5/4/10, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Editor mathew on the Money
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 10:18 AM
>
>  Suntou, sounds like Mathew's personal problems to me. He'll get over it
> when he becomes President of Gambia. Right now he has very little
> responsibility to bear on sobriety. The only thing I have to share with you
> Suntou is that you must not roll over and play dead while idiots trample all
> over you. Its a friggin trick to make you feel guilty and lethargic while
> they have at your food and property. My democratic lawyer friend shares with
> me that majority tribes and ethnicities have human rights too. TO BE
> PROTECTED. Its all a ruse.
>
> Haruna. If you look closer, the one who hollers tribalist is the vrai
> tribalist. Just a loser, but a tribalist nonetheless.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 6:08 am
> Subject: Re: Editor mathew on the Money
>
>  Brilliant notes Masoud. Perhaps you should do a rejoinder to editor
> Mathew for the benefits of non-Gambia L members. As I said before, if Mathew
> can once and for all deal with his constant tribalo-politico fixation, all
> his messages will be fine. I believe, he is a great person, however, he has
> build up an aparent non-existent fear of Mandingos unnecessarily. Should he
> be able to discuss Gambian politics without the endless Mandingo this, UDP
> should be inclusive and so on, he can add to the current debate a vital
> contribution.
> UDP has lots of Fulas -Yahya Jallow--- May be Yahya is not Fula enough for
> Mathew, Femi Peters, May be he is too Aku, Ebou Manneh A Balanta, Nyassi our
> youth President working with the grassroots etc. And the efforts ongoing
> including lots of youths in the decision making process will involve all
> sections of the Gambia. Mathew should do a bit of research on UDP before
> always lamenting on why they should include Fulas.
> Remember Hamat can turn on more voters than some of the guys he mention.
> Who is more Fula than Hamat and his team? We will even put Mathew in our
> executive should he wish to join the new efforts. The UDP is open to all
> Gambians, however no one can force anybody to join politics.
> Mathew should know, the bigger problems is far larger than, tribe A or B.
> This reminds of me of reading about Charles Taylor's rampant killing of
> Mandingos in Nimba County and many other areas. His reason was because when
> he commences his rebellion, Mandingos refuse to join him. His divisive
> strategy was rejected, Charles Taylor then resort to targeting the Mandingos
> of Liberia. It was not until the community show that, without collective
> intervention, Taylor was committing ethnic cleansesen did Nkruma form his
> resistance movement countering Taylor back to Monrovia, forcing him to enter
> peace talks. A Similar thing occurred in Ivory Coast. When Alasana Watara
> was denied the right to become President, the open targeting of Mandingos
> forced the army to split the country into two.
> So the records are there for Mathew to look into should he so wish. Hardly
> did Mandingos go on open hostility in any region of Africa. The slender
> population advantage should never cause endless writers to commit
> cataclysmic errors in probing fears of a peaceful people. And i know similar
> narratives can be said of many Gambian tribes.
>  Yes there are words/statements within each tribal groups which does not
> anchor well with other tribes, however at the bottom of all those statement,
> there is no ill intentions. If Mathew take a serious look at the
> assimilation and inter-absorption of people, his fears will quinch
> themselves. How did we have abundant Tourays, Ceesay, Jannehs and so as
> hardcore Fanafana Wollofs? How did we have countless Camara as Manjakos or
> even Jolas proud of their heritage.Hence some of the people Mathew might be
> counting as Fulas are in fact culturally Wollofs. Which sides should they
> take?
> In fact, it is us so call secular educated folks that ferment subliminal
> tribalism, not the struggling ordinary people. In they consider such
> politics, Yahya should never cross a 4% vote margin.
> Our faiths taught us to reject factionalism/tribalism, and the leadership
> of UDP has demonstrated that. Darboe's leadership doesn't mean Mandinkas own
> the UDP.  I doubt if the the man who started the famous drinking parlour in
> Basse teacher John from Sambang should be branded a tribalist for naming his
> beer/palm wine den as Sambang.
>
> We can't eliminate the signatures we are born into. No amount of
> progressive thoughts can take us away from being born into Tribes and
> cultures which varies to a degree.
> Should we fear Essa Bokar Sey for calling himself Masena Toro? Should we
> fear brothers with open Fulbe Names, Galleh (compound) Gainako (herdsman)
> Bailo (blacksmith) etc? I believe, the urgency is tackling a manic
> totalitarian, we shouldn't try to justify or appeal to tribal sentiments.
> This is not to say, we shouldn't celebrate or conduct our private affairs in
> Fulbe culture, Manden culture or Wollof/Serere traditions. This is not to
> say, those who enjoy Jola music or Wollof dance are tribalist, that is what
> tinge their emotions.
> Diversity is a phenomenon no one can eradicate. Yes some will say language
> is just a medium of communication, however, the reality is that, it is much
> more than that. If it is simply a medium to communicate, then the adoption
> of cultures within tribes too shouldn't make sense. But we know this is
> impossible. Those who have adopted Wollof language, by virtue pick up Wollof
> culture and verse vice for other language groups.
> And another serious area for Mathew to contemplate is that, Folks like me
> with peculiar Mandingo name were in fact from very mixed background. And
> this can be said of many people I know right here in this forum. Mathew is
> under estimating the complex structures we have in the Gambia. To his
> credit, yes there are those who are very passionate about who they are,
> Mathew is no exception here. He is a proud Fula, but many don't have any
> problem with that.
> I hope Mathew can write without threading the tribal line always. I for one
> enjoy reading him, but the dots of inherent fears embedded in him is a
> disturbing recurrence.
> Suntou
> Bolongba
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]<[log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
>
>> Suntou, I agree with you. Uncle Mathew's editorial, apart from innuendo
>> and unfounded rumour, is very valuable. His encouragement of UDP to actively
>> seek the company of all tribes in national endeavour is platinum. This is
>> more attributable to limited resources of OJ and Ousainou than any lack of
>> desire or zeal to court all stakeholders in Gambia's governance. If there is
>> anyone who is fatally inclusive in Gambian politics, it is Ousainou. Perhaps
>> a revamping of the UDP/NRP executive is in order. It is the executive that
>> manages the party's outreach. The UDP executive is full of technocrats who
>> even though have what it takes to govern Gambia, are severely lacking in
>> grassroots campaigning. They have great ideas, they are considerate of
>> inclusive governance, but strike me as lazy in the realm of electioneering.
>> Part of this laziness is attributable to meagre funds, but you have to
>> campaign within the means of the party as far as funds are concerned. You
>> have to tone down the lifestyles you are used to in-order to harness the
>> enormous populist values you hold. *In this era of sustainable development,
>> it is wise to consider a sustainable electioneering strategy. Like Mathew
>> advised, the removal or apprehension of Yahya must be viewed in a
>> sacrificial context a la Mandela and Gandhi. Make the campaign mirror the
>> fierce urgency of your goals. de-bureaucratise your outreach. Add a youthful
>> cadre to your executive if you have to expand the executive's number. There
>> is no reason you cannot have 50 executive members drawing from all tribes,
>> gender, age, skillsets, language, and profession. Such an active executive
>> feeds off itself through symbiosis. Do not commune with any one tribe
>> inordinately, in-fact, an undue focus on tribal representation will be
>> detrimental to the party. Focus on issues common to all tribes and root out
>> corrupt and dishonest tendencies among the executive. Not that there are any
>> but it wouldn't hurt to establish a no-tolerance culture for corruption and
>> fraudulent agency.
>>
>> I hope this helps UDP/NRP/GMC/ppp. UDP and NRP must actively engage GMC
>> and ppp always. Do not focus too much on personalities. Only common issues.
>> And make the party executive look like Gambia as much as possible. The
>> Youth, Women, all tribes, ethnicities, languages, professions. The elders of
>> all tribes must be encouraged to take their rightful place as cultural and
>> professional mentors. Do not substitute tribal representation for integrity
>> and conscience. It is not valuable in the long run. Democracy is about
>> issues not numerical representation. Issue representation necessarily takes
>> care of tribal representation and leaves ethnic idiots out of the mix.
>> AUTOMATIC. Besides, some ethnic idiots will expect bribes and other corrupt
>> considerations for their support and or loyalty. Don't do it. Gambia's
>> problem is not
>>
>> The mechanics of campaign itself must be deliberately fashioned to mirror
>> the goal, aims, and aspirations of the party. You are not seeking to govern
>> to bring back the Jawara era. You are fashioning a new dawn in Gambia.
>> Anyone in the party executive for nirvana does not belong in the party
>> executive. Gambia grows with the times even as we have a criminal rampaging
>> through our communities. We campaign despite the criminal not inspite of
>> Yahya.
>> Haruna.
>>
>>
>> <http://www.thegambiaecho.com/Homepage/tabid/36/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/1916/Default.aspx>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   -----Original Message-----
>> From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]<[log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]>
>> >
>> To: [log in to unmask]<[log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 5:24 am
>> Subject: Editor mathew on the Money
>>
>>
>> http://www.thegambiaecho.com/Homepage/tabid/36/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/1916/Default.aspx
>>
>> The editorial is brilliant, although i have some objections to his
>> critics, however, the overriding assumptions are spot on.
>> Suntou
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