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Bamba sering Manka Mass <[log in to unmask]>
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I like you for a lot of reasons most important of which is you straight forward guy. But I strongly belief if there  in your theory we try adopt then we have to give Jammeh another eighteen years because your theory need a lot of input and ground work. My brother  time is what Gambia doesn't have!

The electoral system oh my gosh. Where were we when the tyrant was hiring and firing members of the so called IEC? Nowhere to be found. Where were we when started shutting down media houses? No where to be found. Where were we when Gambians were accused of being witches and force fed with connotations? No where to be found. Where were we when all dignity was stripped off our people? No where to be found! 

Yet I ask how do we start to correct all these wrongs? to sensitise  the people or educate them of their constitutional rights? Do you think they do not know like we do? Much worse of it all how is one going to go about doing such under Jammeh's watch I do not know maybe you need the greatest magic to prevent disappearance. Because if you pass 24 hours then maybe Mariam Jammeh has built an interest to become your son's wife and as a result Jammeh thinking of you as a future in law allows you to be. 

None of all your above great ideas are workable as long as Jammeh remains at the top of the helm and you knew this probably more than I do. With your great heart for our country, the likes of you are better advising our governments for our common goal but alas not useful as long as he that sees himself as a saint sent from heaven to rule and not needing any guidance as God has already furnished him with all. A guy who boldly says in public that he is a leader who gives orders not take orders! 

My brother I only wish yours is workable. I would have embraced it with all my heart .x  



Sent from my iPhone



On 11 Oct 2012, at 22:22, "Khaleel Jameel" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:



> Baba,

> 

> I think I will over step my boundary to attempt to speak for the Gambians. That my brother is a task I will not tackle but I will give you my take and opinion on the matter. We the people of Gambia have a tough battle to fight. We do not only have to uproot Jammeh from the Gambia but equally we have to carefully select our next head of state. While we have a duty to get the tyrant out of power, we have an obligation to get it right. I am going to agree with you on your assumption that the likes of me will say you are right about all the stuff you mention. No self respecting man will ever argue that point. Please allow me to say what I am about to write is not scientific nor is it tested. 

> 

> We the people of the diaspora will stand limited chance of getting Jammeh out of power despite our tireless efforts, intellectual sound minds and great intentions. with that said if our actions inspire others then we cannot shut up and watch. So it is fair to say that we all need to contribute what we can in this struggle. Here is my take:

> 

> 1. Any thing that will shape and influence situational change in Banjul will come from within the borders of the Gambia.

> 

> 2. We need to set the conditions from an early stage working in concert with different agencies around the globe to have a free an fair elections. How do we do this? We have to make sure that the 5 member independent electoral committee is indeed an independent body from the government to facilitate fair elections. If we can't get this to work then I think we should not be foolish to waste time with elections with all the limitations. I say lets boycott the election and get the attention of the free world.

> 

> 3. We need to change the voting system in the Gambia. It is outdated and makes no sense to keep that voting method. Recount is impossible in case of voters fraud or ballot miscount with the method we use. Taiwan or Japan donated us with a lot more than the voters in the Gambia. Who keeps the surplus marbles and how secure are they from the stray hands?

> 

> 4. We need to solicit the help of international organizations and almost force them to get involve in serious talks about the conditions in the Gambia.

> 

> 5. The young and able bodied Gambians residing in the country have to show courage commitment and sacrifice to get involved in the affairs of the country whether it is standing for what is right and subsequently lose their job or something to that nature. We need to do everything we can to provide them with resources in their fight.

> 

> 6. We have too many young educated Gambians to not be able to have Gambian judges in out high courts. We can't expect to have fair ruling as long as we have Nigerian judges that control our justice system. I know we don't expect them to bite the hand that feeds them.

> 

> 7. We need our parliament to understand that they are hired to do a job. If they feel that they are too scared to represent the people, then they all need to walk away from the job and draw attention. We have to force global attention on Jammeh. As long as we play along it makes him look like everything is going fine and that we in the diaspora are just disgruntle and saying stuff without basis and merit.

> 

> 8. We in the diaspora need to get our priorities straight. If we set conditions that I mention in (2) then those of us that can go back need to take a trip before elections and vote. We are quick to go back in December and enjoy semester status, all white parties and barbecues but how many of us ever voted in our general elections since we left many years ago?

> 

> Baba, I know these may sound like theory and if indeed practical may take a while. I also understand that awhile is a luxury the oppressed people of the Gambia don't have but any change worthwhile has been gradual. Such a facile definition while accurate is not adequate for such an important task. The task of getting Jammeh out of power maybe complex but we have to focus all resources on the essence.

> 

> Have a wonderful day my brother!

> 

> Khaleel

> 

> 

> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 20:31:44 +0100

> From: [log in to unmask]

> Subject: Re: [G_L] The National Transitional Council Gambia sets up Government - This group is likely to replace Babili Mansa

> To: [log in to unmask]

> 

> Here we go again Hon. Khaleel what we talking about is not to allow one Man hold all of us hostage vowing to stay in power for a million years and threatening Gambians that if they do not by force vote for him no development would come there way. Also boasting that no election or coup can remove him from power.

> Now I humbly ask you what do you want Gambians to do? Wait for Mahdi to come down from heave to save us? Or do you want us to wait until he dies of natural death? We are not saying we want to impose ourselves  on anyone in fact quite the opposite. There right  Hon. You got it all wrong. You and I have a Gambia today we call home where a mere seeking permission to peacefully demonstrate is criminal, a Gambia where when you report a wrong to the government you get accused of giving false information to a public official, where people get picked up by state agents only for the same State to publicly deny having them. A state where people get called to report to work only for their dead bodies to be found far far from their supposed work. Now Hon. advice us what do we do? One thing is certain when ever you talk to the likes of you they would say ya all the above are true but.must we be like Yahya Jammeh? Hell no we must not be like him and that is why we need to get rid of him and the Gambians can  decide what way they want their country. Unless we put in place a system where one party would not cling on to power for good by introducing a permanent term limit for any man/woman who wins an election, position could be abused. I want to wait for your candid advice that you think would bring back sanity to our shores. God bless you 

> 

> Sent from my iPhone

> 

> On 11 Oct 2012, at 19:14, "Khaleel Jameel" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> 

> As much as we need Jammeh gone, we need to exercise some caution here. What makes a group of men more qualified than the rest of the million plus Gambians? Most importantly if they are too good that they can appoint themselves key governmental positions rather than be democratically elected by the people of the Gambia then we need to brace ourselves for impact. Lets take a journey back to July 1994 when Jammeh and his cohorts came into power speaking a language of change transparency and stopping rampant corruption, we embraced them right away hoping that it was the much needed change from the Jawara regime but boy are we wrong. For what its worth if these guys can make Jammeh leave within 30 days or uproot him after 30 days, I plead with them to consider doing the right thing and put into motion right away a free and fair election and the establishment of a new constitution written by the people of the Gambia. Give democracy a chance not another gang to hijack our country. In the end, I hope they do the right thing for the sake of all Gambians because God knows our nation is in dire need of independence.

> 

> Khaleel

> 

> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 21:31:41 -0400

> From: [log in to unmask]

> Subject: Re: [G_L] The National Transitional Council Gambia sets up Government - This group is likely to replace Babili Mansa

> To: [log in to unmask]

> 

> We would like jammeh to go but we also want him replaced with a democratically elected government. Get serious guys!!!

> 

> Sent from my iPhone

> 

> On Oct 10, 2012, at 8:24 PM, "C. Omar Kebbeh" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> 

> The National Transitional Council Gambia sets up Government

> 

> Posted on 10 October 2012. Tags: Gambia, Gambia News

> 

> The Gambian National Transitional Council, headed by one Sidia Bayo held a press conference this morning in the French capital Paris. According to the statement received , the CNTG  has given Yaya Jammeh 30 days to vacate power and has also published a list of names as  ministers in next transitional government. Listed Below are the names of persons chosen by the National Transitional Council.

> 

> President and commander in chief of The Gambia Armed Forces, 

> Minister of Natural Resources and Energy: 

> Mr Bayo Sidia Sheikh 

>   

> General Secretary Office of the President: Mr Ousman Jammeh 

>   

>   

> Vice President and head of Government: Mr Jallow Babucarr 

> 

>   

> Minister of Defence : Mr Mohamed Kora 

>   

> Minister of Interior and Home Affairs: Mr Sanyang Ablaye 

>   

> Minister of Justice, Equalities, National Religious affairs and reconciliation 

> Lawyer Darboe Yankuba (spokesman) 

>   

> Minister of Finance and Economic Affairs: Mr Touray Suntu 

>   

> Minister of Agriculture and food production; Falai Mr Baldeh 

>   

> Minister of Youths and Sports: Mr Sada Njie 

>   

> Minister of Tourism and Culture: Mr Landing Nyassi 

>   

> Minister of Media and Communications: Mr Bamba Serign Mass (spokesman) 

>   

> Minister of Local Governments and Lands: Mr Mahawa Cham 

>   

> Minister of Health, Social Welfare and Women’s Affairs: Mrs. Sarata Jabbi 

>   

> Minister of Foreign Affairs: Mr Darboe Manding 

>   

> Minister of Basic and Secondary Education: Mr Alajie Nyabally 

>   

> Minister of Forestry and Environment: Mr Abdul Karim Sanneh 

> 

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