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Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask]>
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Yero, 
You wrote "My take is that you wrote that
if it If it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck from the far
and near, there is no question about it being a duck
Suntou".  Now that is lame and lazy of you in my
books. 
In the same vein, you are pointing at what CNN reported
without critically analyzing the issue being reported. You could have just
forwarded the CNN report and let the readers read for themselves rather
than take their side and their story and then without adding any of your
own observations critically. 
You see the CNN reports failed to
report that there are demonstration for and against these moves. The
courts, all which were appointed by Mubarak are frustrating all efforts to
govern. They dissolved parliament and want to assume the full role of law
making as well as interpretation. The president, the only elected office
should be the law maker in lieu of the parliament, and the fight for power
ensues. Instead of three arms of government, there are two arms thanks to
the courts and now who assumes law making, which cannot be left in
vacuum...
If they do not want the president assuming legislative
powers, they should let the constitution come into effect asap as well as
the legislature. 
Kejau 
 
>

>

>

> Kejau:

>

> I hope you

> clearly make distinctions between discussions and throwing

> &ldquo;unsubstantiated accusations&rdquo;

> as you are trying to label it. As far as I am concerned, the later is
far

> from

> it.

>

> If you call

> my points lame, wonder what I should call your points then. Will you
take

> double or triple lame? Instead of engaging in the kind of pettiness
and

> &ldquo;flaming&rdquo;

> of a debate, why not debate your points across. By the way, who said
it is

> because of the Muslim brotherhood? Who said it is because the
western

> media is

> saying this and that? See how your sudden jump on this won&rsquo;t
yield a

> progressive debate if I want to engage you in those
&ldquo;unsubstantiated&rdquo;

> labels

> you are trying to burry yourself in. If I may equally ask: Show me
your

> objectivity

> in the lines that you typed above, because I neither mentioned his

> association

> with the Muslim brotherhood nor did I talk about the Western
media&rsquo;s take

> on

> him. Maybe go back over my few lines and come back so we can continue
on

> this

> debate.

>

> Thanks for

> your input nonetheless Kejau and here is the debate as far as I am

> concerned&hellip;You are

> stating that people should deal with the real issues yet failed to
realize

> that

> something must have happened that triggered citizens of Egypt to take
to

> the

> streets. The real issues are what citizens of that country must have
seen

> to

> take to T-Square. The history of what we seen from these so-called

> liberators don&rsquo;t

> impress us so far. What we have seen is pariahs who falsely
uniform

> themselves

> in name of liberating the masses and as soon as they step at the
door,

> they

> play around the constitution little by little to achieve their
much

> desired aim

> of ruling with an iron fist.

>

> If I may poke

> your mind, what is the reason that Egyptians took to the streets
Kejau?

>

>
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/24/world/meast/egypt-protests/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

>

> [President Mohamed Morsy on Thursday announced

> that courts could not overturn any decree or law he has issued
since

> taking

> office in June and, beyond that, in the six months until a new

> constitution is

> finalized, his spokesman said on state-run TV.]

>

> ["It's unprecedented, it's unimaginable,

> it's more (power) than Mr. Mubarak ever had," Mohamed ElBaradei,
a Nobel

> laureate and head of Egypt's Constitution Party, told CNN. "This
is the

> language of a dictator."]

>

> Just before I leave you for the weekend, I

> thought you can add few lines on the below topic as time permits;
The

> brutality

> of the African Army.

>

> http://kibaaro.com/?p=4588

>

>

>

> Best regards,

>

> Yero

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 12:42:08 -0600

>

From: [log in to unmask]

> Subject: [G_L] FW: [G_L] President Morsi writes new constitution

> To: [log in to unmask]

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Kejau:

>

> I am missing where you are trying to get to.

>

> You said, "That is so lame." Please explain what you are
refering to as

> lame.

>

> Further you said, "...you are supposed to be
objective..."

>

> Kejau----please explain because I am truly not getting what you
are

> refering to as objective or not.

>

> Best,

> Yero

>

> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:27:33 +0100

>

From: [log in to unmask]

> Subject: Re: [G_L] President Morsi writes new constitution

> To: [log in to unmask]

>

> Yero,

> That is so very lame. Just because the western media

> labels Morsi as a dictator, he must be one?

> As journalists, you are

> supposed to be objective and get to the bottom of things before
jumping on

> the band

> wagon.

> Thanks,

> Kejau

>

>>

>

>> Minister Suntou: Thanks for your input. Not so soon about
missing

> the

>

>> debate. If it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck from the far
and

> near,

>

>> there is no question about it being a duck Suntou. While we are
on

> this

>

>> one; wondering what your thoughts are on the following:

>

>>

>
http://www.maafanta.com/SidiaBayoTheNationalTransitionalCouncilOfTheGambiaNTCG.html

>

>> [POST JAMMEH

>

>> REGIME:

>

>> Once it

>

>> achieves its goal of removing Yahya Jammeh&rsquo;s regime; the
NTCG

> will become

>

>> a

>

>> transitional government, which will only last for 2 years]
Best

>

>> regards,Yero

>

>> > Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 11:16:47 +0000

>

>>>

>

>

From: [log in to unmask]

>

>>> Subject: Re: [G_L] President Morsi writes new constitution

>

>>> To: [log in to unmask]

>

>>>

>

>>> The question is, what powers has the President amass? If
he

> doesn't have

>

>>> Veto powers, where would the buck stops. I think to be too

> simplistic in

>

>>> issues like this is missing the debate. The military
dominates

> and for

>

>>> that to end, someone must be above them. I think people
are

> overeacting

>

>>> too soon without examining the underlying reason. Suntou

>

>>>

>

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>

>>>

>

>>> On 23 Nov 2012, at 22:43, [log in to unmask] wrote:

>

>>>

>

>>> > Really?Just days after Morsi brokered ceasefire between
the

> Isrealites

>

>>> and Hamas,came the anouncement that he will change the

>

>>> constitution.The new constitution will give the president
more

>

>>> powers.Why did he need more powers for? My question and
the

> question

>

>>> most people will ask is has the Arab Spring been effective?
Is

> Egypt

>

>>> going back to the Hosni Mubarak era? There is no question
that

> such a

>

>>> move on the part of President Morsi is major blow to the
concept

> of

>

>>> the Arab Spring.Now let see how critical the West will be by
such

> a

>

>>> move.Right now Morsi has the West on his side.He has cut a

> deal

>

>>> between Isreal and Hamas that resulted into a ceasefire.

>

>>> > Remember the saying "the devil you is better than
the

> devil you dont

>

>>> know"? Stay tune.

>

>>> > hous

>

>>> >

>

>>> >

>
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