Suntou, Halifa is a sociologist and philosopher like Hakilo. That is by
career choice. A sociologist and Philosopher aims to understand the desires
and nuanced lives of a people and to harness their values for greater
societal (communal) good. When a sociologist and philosopher then pivots into
politics as a career like Halifa did, then the understanding, analysis,
harnessing become directed to personal or occult (ethnic) good.
You already know the definition of a politician and politics I imagine.
Haruna.
In a message dated 2/19/2010 5:50:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
Simply brillaint Haruna. Green snakes on green grass. They are looking for
every unknown mechanisms to sell Sallah. It is up to halifa to stop 'waah
usew', his continous 'karawale' is unacceptable, afterall a man who spend
his entire adult life in politics is alo lecturing people on not making
politics a career. Talk about self-serving!! I wonder who he has in mind, since
Hamat is a hotelier, Darboe a Barister, well him, A what?
Suntou
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote:
Evian, I couldn't resist. A leopard cannot change her colours.
[In a message dated 2/17/2010 11:22:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) writes:
Gentlemen, I don't know whether you realised that you are still going
round in circles.
If a united opposition stance against the dictatorship depended on you,
then the dictator is
at greatly at ease. Please tell me you have near zero influence in this
regard.] Evian.
I agree with you here and I second the sentiment regarding the centrifuge
of the vortex.
[While you are still going round and round, the incumbent is busy misusing
our public funds
buying the loyalty of unsuspecting Gambian voters.] Evian.
You must have been asleep Bailo. The incumbent Yahya has been doing that
since 1994. He
likely will not stop as long as there are "unsuspecting Gambians" who will
sell loyalty.
[Please let us instead give emphasis to alerting our friends and relatives
that all these
donations by the dictator is merely to buy to entrench his tyranny over
Gambians.] Evian.
We begin with our own family and friends.
[Abdoukarim, you and Banka need to work on Brufut.] Evian.
Karim and Banka have been working on Brufut since Taf-Taf bereft of
gardens theft of Brufut land. And they will
continue to work on better-brufut. Bari haning yaay sonsong
dolokabolekono, ite haanyila mol doyaala.
[I could already hear some political pundit telling us that since any
future Government in the
Gambia is likely to resort to such tactics albeit on a lower scale,] Evian.
This is what scares me when I write. We do have impressionable kids here.
Bailo, you
grossly misunderstood what I said. Even if you bring it here varbatim and
read it one more time,
you will surprise yourself to understand it. It did not address scale. It
addressed quality. Here's
my explanation for nought.
[then it is no big deal. It is indeed a big deal.] Evian.
And he trundles on in oblivious gaucherie.
[All said and done, it remains the right of every qualified Gambian who
wishes to contest for
political office to do so.] Evian.
I agree with you here Bailo. This is the most sense you made so far.
[Therefore no person should be maligned into supporting another's
candidate.
That's coercion!] Bailo.
Maligning someone or brow-beating them into supporting you or other IS NOT
COERCION. That is called cowering. COERCION presumes positive
consideration.
And it has a criminal connotation to it. In other words if I promise my
child that he/she
will receive 20 pesos if they clean their room, even though there is
positive consideration
it is not coercion because giving incentives for value (quid-pro-quo) is
not criminal if the
value is positive as to society and the individual. Coercion addresses the
character of
the value received more than it does the quid. COWERING.
[It is both uncivilised and unacceptable.] Evian.
Even though it is not coercion, I agree with you that it is not civilised
in the qualitative sense
of CIVILISED. Whether it is acceptable or not is the purview of the one
cowered.
[I expect the leadership of the UDP or NADD alliances not to resort to or
fall for this.] Evian.
Fall for what??? I don't see anyone here desiring support for their
candidate. Maybe they ought to start
asking each other to support their candidates. That'll be a healthy change
for a while. It might turn the
chatter on its head. For better or for worse. I'm kinda bored with what
obtains. Its time to pivot. And spin
on their heads. Maybe I'll get excited once again.
[Halifa is not the barrier to the realisation of Ousainou's presidential
ambitions, nor is
Ousainou the obstacle to the fulfilment of Halifa's Agenda 2011.] Evian.
I think you mean "Ousainou is not the barrier to Halifa's presidential
ambitions and neither is
Halifa the impediment to Ousainou's presidential ambitions". I think some
of you people
need to start communicating in your native tongues. You are maligning
yourselves. And that
is not coercion.
[Let us therefore stop feigning that such is the case.] Evian.
That what is the case Evian??? I think by now you know agenda whatever is
only significant
to Halifa and you. Maybe Dad too. And a smattering of PDOISards.
E(plural)-Niyo lebe laaring nying
kang.
Haruna.
--- On Wed, 17/2/10, yanks dabo <[log in to unmask]
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From: yanks dabo <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) >
Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
To: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask])
Date: Wednesday, 17 February, 2010, 13:25
Suntu
Who does this Modou Nyang thinks he is; asking you to call "Darboe and ask
him
whether they have reached the decision that the only alliance he Darboe
and the
UDP would be a part of is one which endorses his candidature for the 2011
Presidential elections".
Maaaaaaaaaan!!! Tell this Ndokey Nyang not to play with us! Who does he
thinks
we are; his errand boys!!
As for his claim that he wants "to be fair to the UDP leadership. I know
they are
matured people and know what is at stake. We are dealing with the future
of the
Gambia and I do not want to judge the UDP by the words of its sycophants".
He seems too late for to reckon that fact, as he had already been unfair
to the UDP
leadership and judged the UDP leadership in his reaction to the UDP UK's
rejoinder.
Less that reaction had not been written by Nyang but by his Halifa Sallah;
to make
him not to realise his errors.
One other point for Mr Nyang, is that we wait for his article about why
UDP's strategy
will fail, which he promised to publish on Freedomnewspaper. I'm sure his
knows it will
no go unchallenged.
Yanks
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:07:24 +0000
From: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask])
Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
To: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask])
Suntou, one more thing before I come Daffeh’s way. This just came to me
while scribbling in response to Sonny. Because you are the coordinator, I saw
your photo with Darboe during his visit to the UK, you look good bro,
however that still does not make put you in major decision making position in
the party especially with regards to opposition unity.
And when I wrote to Uncle Haruna the following: "If you want to be Darboe’
s Press Secretary could you give us the UDP position on the way forward
instead of pouring venom on Halifa for being bold enough to come up with
concrete proposals?", Yanks tried to take ownership of it. But I am not
interested in his ranting but only for the part he quoted Daffeh as thus: "Halifa
Sallah and his PDOIS Party should put their personal pride, egos and
idealism aside and immediately embrace a UDP led alliance without any obnoxious
precondition whatsoever". This is where I want to tackle Daffeh.
But before that I need your help first. I want to be fair to the UDP
leadership. I know they are matured people and know what is at stake. We are
dealing with the future of the Gambia and I do not want to judge the UDP by
the words of its sycophants. Before I write I would want you to call Darboe
and ask him whether they have reached the decision that the only alliance
he Darboe and the UDP would be a part of is one which endorses his
candidature for the 2011 Presidential elections.
I am still not convinced that the UDP leadership will be calling on people
to give it money so that it prepares for failure. That is political
suicide and any body who helps them in that venture must be seen to be either
driven by nepotism, tribalism or opportunism. Only people who are infected
with such disease could reason in the irrational manner Sonny Daffeh chose to
do. The issue that the UDP Sycophants refuse to look at is how to bring
about change.
Suntou, please do this for the sake of our country. I know you were with
Darboe not long ago but you can talk to him again at least one more time.
Agreed? Good, and thank you. I will be expecting you within the next 24
hours to give a reply and I will then prove to you that it is the positions you
take which makes Agenda 2011 the best option available so far for those
who want change.
That is why you are focusing on hate messages against Halifa and not
showing why the agenda is unworkable. I am using my real name but you people are
hiding to a point of using the name Kumba Gaye to attack me for exposing
the bankruptcy of your position.
Nyang
--- On Mon, 2/15/10, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]
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From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]
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Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
To: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask])
Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 8:50 PM
Modou, I can see that you are desperate to tag me with every negative
jargon. Bring them on. What you are failing to notice is that, the way UDP
dominate in terms of support on the ground, is the same right where you are.
So hold your horse on the negativity, it doesn't bother me. KKK, we know who
the real ones are.
Suntou and his UDP fellow members are focus on what matters, exposing the
dubious political propaganda by Halifa is just a small part of our work.
Don't get affected to the level you are willing to stoop low as some of your
coward colleagues. Halifa should also stop writing stuffs for you, people
can tell the difference. It is making me cringe, in as much as wish to see
him do the right thing, taking unnecessary disastrous route is something i
don’t recommend he will do.
Wherever Suntou is confirmed a KKK, Modou Nayan and his friends will be
loyal members too.
Too cheap friend
Suntou
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]
([log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]) > wrote:
Uncle Haruna, I got you loud and clear. You do not want to wade into
political mathematics and you are not the Press Secretary of the UDP. There is
nothing for us to debate. I will then go back to the UK club.
However I must tell you that I have noticed in your writing that there is
a generation gap between us. This is why you cannot identify some of my
cultural symbolism's. Even though it is out of place for a nephew to give
advise to an uncle I do see the desire in you to do something constructive
for the Gambia. I therefore hope that you will give up the posture which
gives you the image of a person who want to be on top of every body else.
I really could not understand what problem you have in the provisions of
the constitution being disseminated in a practical and relevant way ad
infinitum. It is our national document and we need to know it to promote the
rule of law. I also could not understand why you felt that those who give
birth to educated children cannot understand government budgets if explained
in their own language. The problem of the Gambia is not the people but
those who claim to know but are illiterates in our local languages. Hence they
cannot communicate what they have learned to the grass-roots.
Certain kinds of information are meant for the goose and another to the
gander. I certainly wanted to challenge you on your comments regarding the
Brufut donations but now I think I will leave you alone. However, I will not
close my chapter with you for the moment without expressing my
disappointment at your comment that you did not read Agenda 2011 but used it as
toilet paper.
Please don’t be a partner to Suntou’s friend whose Ku-Klux-Clan and Rush
Limburg attitude is so full of hate and prejudice that does not allow him
to see good in anyone who does not bow down to his wishes. Uncle Haruna
Halifa and those in their fifties belong to the last group of the
generation of people who have now reached retirement age and you the people in your
40s (am guessing, as you informed me that Sam was your teacher) belong to
the first group who should be leading our generation. I feel ashamed that
those of us in our 30s could be reading such vulgar words from people who
should be our role models.
You must promise that any time you speak again you will do so as a
responsible elder who aims to inspire the generation just after you. If we
follow the footsteps of Suntu and the haters Gambia is in trouble for a long
time to come. I will now devote my time to them to prevent them from
misleading themselves since they can mislead no other person in the world. There
intolerance is already becoming apparent. Even Jeggan is now PDOIS even
though he is advocating for a primary that include people who are not members
of political parties. What could be more democratic than that? To them it
must be their leader or no one else. We are now beginning to see who the
real sycophants are.
Nyang
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Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
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Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 1:24 PM
Yanks, Thanx for sharing. Although I don't know the man, but I liken
Daffeh to Carl Rove and James Carville. The man is simply excellent. You would
wish UDP/NRP had a 1000 Daffehs, Karambas, SUntous, Ansus, and Yankses.
Aaaaaaallleeeeeh! Haruna.
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From: yanks dabo <[log in to unmask]
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To: [log in to unmask]
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Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2010 12:40 pm
Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
For the attention of Modou Nyang, Pa Samba Jow (Coach), Halifa Sallah, and
the rest of the anti-UDP
Movement!
I bring to your attention this article culled from freedomnewspaper,
though with a slight change to its heading!
NADD Should Have Done Better
By Sonny Daffeh, UK
Mr Editor,
Please allow me space to respond to Jeggan Grey-Johnson’s article of 9th
February 2010 which was published in your well established medium under
the heading; ‘‘Agenda 2011; The Opposition Leaders Must Do the Right Thing.’’
While I agree that the opposition should get it right this time around, I
do not however agree that Agenda 2011 is the right basis for this. This is
an ill-conceived theory that was propounded by a disingenuous political
ideologue on the basis of two premises namely; that the NADD alliance did
not work because it was unable to gather significant amount of votes in the
2006 presidential elections, and also that the UDP led alliance did not
work because it had registered a drop in votes from their 2001 electoral
standing. While I agree with the former, I beg to differ with the latter. That
premise is not only flawed, it is also fraught with the propounder's very
own personal prejudice against a possible UDP led alliance in 2011.
Although, it is true that the UDP registered a drop in votes from their
2001 standing, this however cannot be attributed to the type of alliance
[party led alliance] they adopted in 2006. As was rightly indicated in the
UDP- UK rejoinder of 1st February 2010, UDP’s drop in votes resulted from
two things; their own lack of adequate preparation thanks to their prior
membership of NADD, and the unprecedented low voter turnout [58.58%] that was
witnessed in 2006 which when compared to the 2001 voter turn-out [89.71%],
indicates a drop of 31.13% and this is notwithstanding the fact that the
national voter register had been updated with 219,630 new voters in 2006.
Going by the results of 2006 presidential election, it doesn’t appear that
these voters had voted for a different party rather than the UDP. They just
didn’t vote. Otherwise, why is it that NADD barely crossed over the 5%
threshold?
Some might argue that the low voter turn-out was a direct result of
opposition disunity. While this may be true, it does not however lend any
credence to Agenda 2011 as there is no evidence which suggests that this was a
specifically directed protest against the UDP led alliance. Even if the
connection between opposition disunity and the voter turn-out is validly
made and I am not saying it is not, it would appear that the situation would
still have been the same irrespective of whatever type of alliance any
party might have chosen to adopt, be it party led alliance, the so-called
umbrella party or indeed a grand coalition. Therefore, it is not the nature of
party led alliance that is the issue here but the factors that inhibited
the realisation of its full potentials in 2006. That is what folks with
genuine interest in opposition unity want to talk about, not some kind of
superficial political theories that are specifically invented to circumvent the
rules of conventional politics in furtherance of a particular individual’
s selfish agenda. A grand coalition as spelled-out in Agenda 2011 is pretty
much akin to the NADD coalition - the only difference being the name -
and would be vitiated with the same problems that eventually led to the
breakdown of NADD. Hence, it is not an option. It is just a mere but crude
academic exercise. Therefore and instead of asking the leaders to commit the
same mistake and somehow expect a different result or levelling false
accusations against the leadership of the United Democratic Party – accusing
them of paying a lip service to the call for unity -, Jeggan should have been
bold enough to ask Halifa Sallah and his PDOIS Party to put their personal
pride, egos and idealism aside and immediately embrace a UDP led alliance
without any obnoxious precondition whatsoever. That is the only thing that
has never happened before and it is about time history is made.
The UDP has proven itself over and over of being the dominant force in
Gambia’s opposition politics. Any future alliance/coalition of all opposition
parties must therefore be built around them. This is a sacred principle
of any democratic political dispensation and no amount of spinning and
hypocrisy will be allowed to circumvent it. The earlier the fringe parties
recognise this, the better for our chances of forging a unified alliance of
all opposition parties against the ruling APRC in 2011. This is not about
helping someone to become an elite as Halifa would say. It is about adhering
to the rules of conventional politics; coalitions are usually led by the
biggest party in the group.
Jeggan’s suggestion of a primary election as a mechanism for selecting a
candidate for a possible coalition of all opposition parties is both
misplaced and untenable. Primaries are normally an internal party contest where
individuals contest for the leadership/candidature of a given party in a
forthcoming general election. Coalitions of independent sovereign political
parties don’t contest primaries to determine who their leader should be.
That is normally determined by the results of the preceding general
election. This is what we have seen in Israel, Germany and Italy just to name a
few. There is no reason why this should not apply to the opposition in the
Gambia.
In 2006, 127,473 electorates voted for the opposition combined. Out of thi
s, 81% voted for the UDP candidate and 19% for NADD – the so-called PDOIS
and PPP-OJ coalition – This exhibits a clear expressed will of the Gambian
people which is valid for five years – it expires only after the 2011
presidential election – and have therefore effectively rendered the whole idea
of a primary utterly obsolete as a legitimate candidate can easily be
determined from these statistics.
Jeggan’s claim that PPP-OJ and PDOIS coalition [NADD] registered an
increase of 100% in their 2006 score is really laughable. I couldn’t stop asking
myself whether he is in his trees. This shows that our dear friend is
detached from both the facts and the political reality on the ground. PPP and
PDOIS never contested a general election together as an alliance prior to
the 2006 presidential election. Hence, there is no prior statistics that
could be used to determine whether they have registered an increase or a
decrease in 2006. What is however crystal clear is that this alliance or
whatever they chose to call it, is not fit for purpose for it is an extremely
weak one. Out of forty-eight constituencies, they had 1,000 or more votes in
only five constituencies. In thirty-three constituencies, they had less
than 1000 votes and in ten constituencies less than 100 votes. I see no
potential in such a diabolical electoral performance.
As for who leads the UDP, that is a matter for the general membership and
if Jeggan doesn’t like the current leader, he should join the party before
its upcoming congress and fight from within. Otherwise, he should,
frankly speaking, shut up.
I hope he will do more research next time before going to the press.
SS Daffeh
Essex, UK
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