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Thanx Bro,

I had been immersed in the chagrin of my brothers and sisters in Misera. I will use this occasion to share ideas with them:

Yaa Alaskandariyoon,

I am aware of events surrounding your lives of late. Some of you have shared with me that Tunis afforded you hallmark inspiration. I am with you and I empathize with you. I will discourage you from mimicking events in Tunis for the ware of Misera life.

In every country, there are anxieties and problems that need and require redress. The manner of accruing redress is as significant as the redress sought. Social networking and mass communication tools are very valuable for they expand individual rights and desires into more national enterprise. They can be counterproductive however particularly when they are used for celebrity and wholesale malaise.

You have taken to your streets to express your anxieties and frustrations. You have battled with your pole forces. Your President has agreed with you on your chagrins even if that includes his replacement. Your army has now been deployed to maintain law and order and to maintain the security and safety of your families and the families of those who for one reason or the other have stayed home. You have now been demonstrating in this manner for several days, but you cannot discern the criminals among you. You have sustained injury and loss of life. The army is comprised of your brothers and sisters who are charged with the security of all Misera. The army is not at odds with your rights to free expression. In fact your army has not displayed disaffection to you.

President Mubarak has begun to replace his government with your fellow citizens and he has promised to yield to your demands.

Nothing can be achieved by incessant and wanton mass demonstration and unharnessed value. If such a mass demonstration outlives its usefulness by turning into anarchy and indiscriminate criminality, the redress you seek, if granted, will have diminished the value of mass demonstrations and their efficacy. You will understand that it may not be in the interest of some outside of Misera for calm and considered engagement to reign in Alaskandaria.

Here is what I advise:

1. Choose from among your good number, a group of representatives, 100 or 200. Then bring the wanton and indiscriminate mass demonstration to a close. Yield to your army's call to allow normalcy to return to Kaaira and Alaskandaria.

2. Give this adhoc people's committee (APC)the authority and mandate to engage the executive on your behalf.

3. I call on your army to facilitate a congress between your APC and the Executive (including President Mubarak) within a week and allow your demands to be heard and allow considered and responsible engagement of your executive to meet your demands within the context of a whole Misera.

4. I encourage your army to monitor and insist on the implementation of the agreement that issues from this congress. 
  

 Throughout world history, solutions to problems never issue from extreme chaos or wanton disregard for order. I honor you and I look forward to President Mubarak honoring your wishes within a reasonable Misera. God knows I have similar considerations in Gambia as you do in Misera. If it is the replacement of President Mubarak you desire, you will get that. But I want you to get it without tearing Misera apart. And if you get Mubarak to resign, you must consider his replacement. That is where this APC becomes cardinal.

Thank you.

Haruna. I love Misera and her people.


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Yanks Darboe <[log in to unmask]>
To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Fri, Jan 28, 2011 5:52 pm
Subject: Re: Thank you Yanks. This is for Ndokeh Nderry. I am still his elder.


Thanks Brother Haruna

I hope Pa realises that there were many mandinka listeners of freedomnewsradio; who 
were disappointed to hear vitriol he made about their tribe.

Thanks

Brethren Yanks





Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 04:12:24 -0500
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Thank you Yanks. This is for Ndokeh Nderry. I am still his elder.
To: [log in to unmask]


I am very proud of you Yanks for reasoning with Nderry in the quiet after the storm. I was a bit disappointed in Nderry even though I understood he was defending Falai because of their common tribal affinity and because Falai is a regular commentator on Freedomnewsradio. I do not fault Nderry for that support of Falai based on those notions. However, I was expecting Ndokeh to consider that even though Falai is a regular contributor, I am also a regular listener. If, as a proprietor of a journal or radio, you insense some of your listening audience by your regard for a regular commentator, you are, unawares, dwindling the need for the commentator. As far as the tribal affinity goes, that's a dime a dozen. I will however share with Ndokeh, as a rider to your amicus Yanks, that even if Ndokeh thinks Mandingos are tribalist, he Ndokeh is the least situated to be tribalist as counterpoise to any Mandingo tribalism, real or imagined, simply because he is a proprietor of a news and entertainment medium and he professes to desire circulation and readership. Ndokeh must understand that he occupies a special place in the Gambian community. It should be unfortunate to tear down what he spent several years and many sweaty nights to build.
 
I have known him to be passionate and to jealously guard his sacrosanct right to free speech. I will encourage Nderry to consider the delicate balancing act of those rights with his rights as a sole proprietor of a news and entertainment outlet. Courts wrestle with this balancing act all the time. It is because they are the penultimate reserve of communion and harmony for the world's peoples. Falai knows exactly what he did and he knows he is in the wrong. It is now very difficult to carry out surreptitious and proxy wars. The Mandingos and the Fulas are like the chicken and egg story. I don't believe one can be useful without the other. Let us focus on the crimes of persons and not their tribal, religious, or professional affinities. Political parties belong to their founders and members. The rest of us can either choose to vote for them or not vote for them. Our vote is not currency for ownership shares in any party. So please dispense with the notion: UDP belongs to all Gambians, PDOIS belongs to all Gambians, NRP belongs to all Gambians, GPDP belongs to all Gambians, GMC belongs to all Gambians, or PPP belongs to all Gambians. THEY DON'T. All of these parties would love to earn all our votes but they know who owns their parties. And why would anyone want to own a political party???????????????????????????? My vote is far more valuable than an ownership stake in a political party. When I want an ownership interest in any political party, I know how to purchase that ownership....By registration, blood, sweat, tears, and the attendant joys, just like the vrai owners of the parties expend. I remembered Ndokeh shared a well-worn quote...Hamga Lui hew Gambia, Hanga lui hew Gambia, ALhaji doggu mala deh, wai Hanga lui hew Gambia, Monkey eat, baboon chop, wow monkey work baboon chop. I almost died laughing. I want Ndokeh to reflect on this his quote. I also remind him that it was one of the quotes Yahya shared in his first few days as Junta leader when there was a tussle as to who would be leader of the spoils of the coup. In the shallow films of that quote lie shares of ownership.
 
I am long. Thank you Yanks for affording me this opportunity to confer with my Ndokeh. I understand he may have been pleased with me lately. I was also at pains to chide him directly hoping he would reflect. I am reminded of Brutus' soliloquy in the small hours of the morn ahead of Caesar's assassination.
 
Haruna.
 

In a message dated 1/27/2011 6:29:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
Pa

You are more than welcome to join the UDP,   whenever you wish. 
I was contacted about your handling of the falaye debacle with the UDP. 
You were mad   with the UDP's decision to disown Falaye. It must have come as 
a shock, therefore your reaction could be understood. 

However, what you   failed to understand was how shocked and mad the UDP 
were to hear Uncle   Falaye calling for Darboe's head!   

I heard you arguing that it was uncle Falaye's right to freedom of   expression. 
Just as the UDP argues that same basic tenet of human right. That it is their right 
to   count anyone as part of their party. 

To put it simply, if Yahya Jammeh declares his   defection to UDP tomorrow, he might 
not be accepted; so will any one   else who wants to make public statement about of   
party's leadership in a manner that undermines that leadership   itself.

We can live with uncle Falaye being a member of the PDOIS and criticise   our leadership 
than to have him from within. In Britain the Labour party   kicked out George Galloway and   
Claire Short from their party or forced them to resign because they were   critical of Blair, 
the leader of the party at the time.

Britain is a democratic nation and it parties   engage in a democratic process. But each 
party has parliamentary   whips to clamp down on rebels.   

Falaye cannot be a rebel from within; he is right in his believe that   he has freedom to question 
the UDP leadership, but he was wrong   to thinking that the party will   accept his challenge. 

He is indeed a free man just like the rest of   the members of the UDP party. Whoever does not 
like the leadership of   Darboe, has the freedom to leave   the party. However a person cannot claim 
to be a member of the UDP but   does not accept its leader.

I would therefore encourage you, Pa  to   maintain the impartiality of freedomnewspaper, in order 
you may not become   GRTS against the UDP. 

Remember every day the GRTS is telling Gambians   how bad the UDP is, yet we are a force in the 
Gambia.

The UDP is not scared of any media house.   We have withstood GRTS and Daily Observer and Foroyaaa
in the   Gambia!!!!!!

Nemesis   Yanks

  
  Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:37:07 +0000
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject:   Re: Is Pa Nderry and the freedomnewspaper working for Jammeh and the   APRC?
To: [log in to unmask]

      Yanks:

Very sober reflections here, but why associating me with the   PDOIS? I'm not affiliated with any party in The Gambia. But I must hasten to   add that: If I were to support any party, I rather join the UDP because of the   party's policies. Then, I will lobby your support including Ustas Suntou to   replace Ousainou. 

On a more serious note: I appreciate all the   sentiments expressed by different forum members on this particular thread. We   are bound to agree, and disagree, but lest we forget that civility facilitates   fruitful debate. Thanks. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
  
  
From: Yanks Darboe <[log in to unmask]> 
  
Sender: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List   <[log in to unmask]> 
  
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:09:44 +0000
  
To: <[log in to unmask]>
  
ReplyTo: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List   <[log in to unmask]> 
  
Subject: Re: Is Pa Nderry and the freedomnewspaper working for   Jammeh and the APRC?
  


Suntu 

Pa Nderry is currently   on the payroll of PDOIS; just ignore him. I had a lot of calls 
regarding   the same. I find uncle Falaye and   Pa Nderry's call for Darboe to resign a 
bit interesting. 

I do not   think they understand the UDP; as its party loyalists understands it. Calling   Ousainou 
to resign without   asking who will replace him will only be a detriment to the UDP, as a   
party. If anyone wants   Ousainou to leave the UDP leadership; they must tell us who will 
replace   him and whether that person will agree replace him. 

The UDP is an open democracy, if Pa Nderry and Falaye want to replace   Darboe; they don't need 
to start such sinister propaganda on freedom, they   can do so by putting their interest to party and 
compete with Darboe to the position.   

However, to ask for Darboe to resign without will lead for the   destruction of the UDP; which i think 
both Nderry and Falaye do not want   to see.  

Furthermore, the claim   that Darboe should resign because he had been the leader of the party for too   
long is not credible. 

Take example of Abdlie Wadda, Alpha Condeh,   and Alhasana Ouatara, they did not resign because they 
had been leaders of   their respective parties in opposition for long. If that was a requirement   they would 
not be presidents of their respective countries. And not   forgetting my comrades in the PDOIS leadership, 
who have been opposition   leaders before the birth of the Gambian nation!!!!!!! 

Yanks   

 

  
  Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:25:17 +0000
From:   [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Is Pa Nderry and the freedomnewspaper   working for Jammeh and the APRC?
To:   [log in to unmask]

Haruna
I have been on record defending   the right of the Freedomnews to dig deep into Gambian politics and affairs.   However, recent happenings in the freedomnewspaper seems to expose the ugly   side of a pundit. He is free to say whatever he deems fits and really, no one   has any problem with that. But it seems the lazy, hypocritical accusations   have surfaced in his radio. He now start accusing decent Mandingos of   Tribalism whilst not doing the same for his other guest. He now brand Yahya   Darboe and other UDP U.S members of controlling the UDP. I wonder what he eats   before coming on air. Isn't he the same person speaking to Syngle Nyassi about   UDP and Gambian politics. No single UDP support group come into effect without   the approval of Ebou Manneh and this is evident even with the New UDP Sweden   chapter. Whoever is feeding him this malicious lies should serious think   before prating. But then the dangers of ethnic co-existence always lingers.. .   This is the most absurd nonsense I have heard for a while. Now it appears   Mandinkas have to be careful in involving in politics if not, cheap idiots   will come at them with stupid nonsense. Let Pa Nderry go CNN and see if his   futile statements will mean anything. Why should the mere discussion of   differing views brought ethnicity into our politics? I thought that, Pa of all   people is beyond this rubbish but alas, ..
Pa should remember that, his   radio is effective only if it serve the public good. Using it as weapon   against those he disagree is bringing back the early days of the Freedom   newspaper when he use to attack just anyone. I hope in time, he be restraint   enough to sit tightly on the fence, for now let see it as Talk show host let   loose. And who is trying to please with the maligning of Mandingo members of   UDP? No single member of the the UDP will be hindered with lies against those   who wish to play an active role in Gambian politics. If supporting a party of   their choice means they are tribalist, well then.. who careless.

It is   sad to see Pa spending his valuable time talking on irrelevant self-defeating   subjects rather than importance matters on Gambian politics. 
As it   happens, those feeding him have benefited more from the UDP than those they   are attacking, how ironical. Now Pa said, Fulas are the largest ethnic group   in the Gambia. That is fantastic news and by Allah may they increase in   number. Another gentleman said, some Mandinkas in Sweden hand his daughter in   Marriage without his approval and that means, the Mandinkas always think they   are better than others. Now then, open the cans of worm, lets get on with it.   Let Pa bring on more Mandinka maligning and relax, if that is what it will   take, it is ok.
Suntou

  
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>   wrote:
  
    
Kemo and Ansu,

Falaye's case is one of fraudulent agency. Any     speech emanatin from fraudulent agency does not fall under Free speech. Many     "journalists" confuse the universal and intrinsic rights to free speech and     its underpinnings. Being a "supporter" of a political party is not the same     as being a member or an official of the party. 

Haruna.
    
    
    

    
-----Original     Message-----
From: Ansumana Bojang <[log in to unmask]>
To:     GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent:     Wed, Jan 26, 2011 11:04 am
Subject: Re: Is Pa Nderry and the     freedomnewspaper working for Jammeh and the APRC?

    
Jallow,











This seems to be a simple case of Pa Nderry was exposed for his bias.  His 





subsequent shows have exposed this more.  You can see that he is trying to find 





anyone who he can have come on his show to say anything negative about UDP and 





Lawyer Darbo.  He is always talking from both sides of his mouth contracdicting 





himself everytime he opens his mouth.  Pa needs to take a dose of reality and 





move on with better things for him and Gambia if he cares about Gambia.











I have read the UDP, USA press release and listened to the radio show and all I 





heard is the USA members trying to tell the audience what the party is up to and 





defend lies being pedalled against UDP.  Don't they have the right to speak 





their opinions too just like Falaye that Pa Nderry is defending for his right to 





free expression?











Ansu





----





Kemo Jallow said:











Listening to Pa Nderry after the defection of Rambo to APRC ,with the issues Pa 





is talking about trying to be little Ousainou Darbo on his radio. One can say 





that Pa is working for Jammeh. With his double standard comments Pa is ready to 





destroy UDP. MY ADVICE TO GAMBIANS AND THE UDP IS TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH PA 





NDERRY AND HIS FREEDOMNEWSPAPER. Pa has an agenda against the gambian 





opposition. NADD failed because of  some comments mde on the online newspapers 





specially the freedomnewspaper. 





 





Pa said that he is independent and know one can controll him. Then why he want 





to controlls the UDP by supporting ideas calling for a change in the party he 





did not support. Anyone who know Darbo personally knows that Darbo is not 





tribalist. UDP UK and UDP USA please stop discussing certain issues at the 





freedom radio. Right now we dont need a journalis or a person who is trying to 





undermine the little efforts of our opposition political partys, who are 





struggling everyday on the ground. I would be very happy if Pa Nderry can come 





on the ground and form a political party and  challenge Jammeh. Ablie Wadda has 





been and opposition leader for decades before being a president. If Pa cannot 





support our oppositions leaders please let him stop undermining them.











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