AbdouKarim
You may have a point and am not disputing.
Regardless increasing demand of any resources means scarcity. Population is
one of the variables that with any increase will reduce either quality or
quantity of a said resource. I have not seen a study that puts every blame
of land degradation on population but surely a factor.
Yes we are agrarian. Isn't that people in need of land for food production
- hence more/faster depletion. As humans we can change from agrarian and/or
improve on techniques. Isn't that management?
International trade and debt, especially debt servicing for The Gambia is a
problem. Again proper and inform management should ameliorate some of
those problems. On the flip side trade is not only good but important.
Fair trade is more a political phenomenon than it's economic. In economics
trade is anchored on comparative advantage theorem.
Unless you totally exclude and/or downplay the role of population increase
we are in agreement.
Regards
Burama
On Friday, May 30, 2014, abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> Burama
> That is neomalthusian narrative. Population growth is always use as the
> cause and the results factor is negated. The results to resource
> degradation is beyond demographic narrative of population growth. We are an
> agrarian economy and so depend on natural resources for livelihoods.
> Poverty nexus land degradation is was negligent and population growth
> always take a center stage and becomes the dominant thesis. Do you look
> into international political economic issues such debt and its impact on
> mortgaging our natural resources in servicing debtors. Lack of fair trade
> and it's association poverty natural resources uses etc.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 05:23:42 -0400
> From: [log in to unmask]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>
> Subject: Re: What's Our Make-up & How Was/Is It Managed
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Abdoukarim
>
> Gambia is considered one of the overcrowded nation by all estimators
> including WHO’s
>
> Having 1.7million on about 11000 sq. km = 155 people/sq. km. Considering
> not all of the 11K is not land - some water, some forest, roads, etc is
> highly dense.
>
> Gambia at one time (some times in the 90s) used to be the fasted growing
> in the sub region. Not only due to natural birth but also the subregional
> conflicts contributed to that trench
>
> Estimates (WHO 2010) - 55% are living in the urban area - that means we
> are not symmetrically spread over the nation.
>
> Multi- factors contributed to resources degradation (resources in the
> broader sense) - some natural and others human. I can still try provide
> studies/sources that said so.
>
> I just stated few stats and never suggest Mathusianism, others and/or
> otherwise.Put it simply I never suggest we control people in favor of
> resources.
>
> In fact I asked question whether our poverty was a given or mismanagement.
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> Burama
>
>
>
> On May 30, 2014, at 4:17 AM, abdoukarim sanneh <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Neo-malthusian framing of over population is very wrong. Poverty and
> political economy is the cause of resource degradation. Gambia is not an
> over populated country.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 23:27:47 -0400
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: What's Our Make-up & How Was/Is It Managed
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Demba, the Burama I know does not take no for an answer but i will advice
> that we narrow the focus of the discussion and take on population, land
> water, economy and governance separately, if we are to be effective.
>
> Some will argue that if you deal with governance the rest will fall in
> line.
> Jefferson put it nicely when he said we are all endowed with the right to
> life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
>
> Even China had to adopt these principles (yes in baby steps) before they
> became the world's factory.
>
> IMalanding Jaiteh
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Demba Baldeh
> Date:29/05/2014 20:37 (GMT-05:00)
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [G_L] What's Our Make-up & How Was/Is It Managed
>
> Interesting questions Burama. I guess with the land, population density,
> agriculture, forestry etc.. Dr. Jaiteh can help us. Him and I had a similar
> discussion that looked at our overpopulation, agricultural land and
> erosion. He is with us here and may have done some modern approach research
> into such data... Dr. can you help us with some insights? These are good
> observations... For me we are poorly managed but record keeping, reliable
> statistics are an epidemic problem.
>
> It would be interesting to look at population, resources vs economic
> development. China comes to mind with over a billion people but their
> economy and standard of living continue to improve.. Yet there is arguably
> no Democracy in China.. How do we reconcile those contradicting
> approaches... Does a nation have to have Democracy and them to develop? How
> about human rights? Interesting and stimulating questions..
>
> Thanks
>
> Demba
>
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Burama Jammeh<[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> Estimates has it that at the dawn of independence we were less than 1/2
> million people. Today extrapolated estimates put us at 1.7million people.
> Estimated average density of about 125 people/km
>
> Area - about 11K sq. km
>
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