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That was a premature posting guys but I post my full response soon. I hit
the send button mistakingly while drafting on my iPhone.

I will not allow any hypocrisy to scupper the truth in this matter, and
this not a personal attack on anyone.

Thanks
Daffeh

On Wednesday, 29 January 2014, UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Thank you Pa Saikou for that response. Now is my time as I was involved in
> the discussion before the matter even reached you guys in New York.
>
> Yes, Suntu did not get his facts right and understandably so, about who
> knows what but the insinuation you are also making about an unnamed person
> who called Yahya Jallow's daughter is also baseless, unfounded and an utter
> fabrication. It cannot be any far away from the truth
>
> The suggestion that the executive tried to secure an invitation from UDP
> USA for three months is also unfounded. Here is what happened;
>
> Mr. Manneh contacted a member of the UDP       USA chapter about the
> party's plan to send a delegation to the US for fundraising and requested
> from the chapter an invitation through that person. That person then
> expressed his personal reservation about the timing of the planned but none
> the less promised to table the before the weekly joint UDP UK and UDP USA
> meeting for discussion and possible approval. No list of delegates were
> given neither was Mr. Jallow's name was mentioned as a potential delegate.
>
> This was a period when the UK and USA chapters were engaged in sponsoring
> series of tours and activities on the ground to prepare the UDP for 2011
> presidential elections. We could get your NewYork chapter on board despite
> my personal efforts (I suggestion was all chapters to collaborate in the
> supreme interest of the party despite your intracible personal differences
> in the US). We also could not get your chapter to contribute to the 2011
> presidential elections campaign, again, despite my personal efforts in
> reaching out to atleast four leading members of your chapter.
>
> I was immediately contacted by that person in my capacity as the Secretary
> General of UDP UK and informed of the same. The person also shared his
> reservation with about the timing and I agreed with him on that. I also
> understood that Mr. Manneh was not happy about the gentleman expressing
> this reservation. I then opined that although the visa issue should be
> sorted immediately, the trip itself should not take place until the Women
> wing returned to the Kombos from their second leg nation-wide tour
> sponsored by the UK and USA chapters, and this was for tactical reasons.
>
> Unfortunately, before we could meet as a group to discuss the visa issue,
> news broke out on the amateur freedomnewspaper website about Yahya Jallow
> been denied visa. I was surprised because as far as I know, no invitation
> was extended to them. I was talking with Mr. Manneh's contact in the USA
> chapter on a daily basis literally and I expected that he was going to
> update me on any change or abandonment of the process we agreed upon. So I
> decided to call him. I told me in no uncertain terms that he also just the
> story online but was not aware of any UDP official who had submitted a visa
> application to the US Embassy but then promised to find out from Yahya
> Jallow himself and get back to me a.s.a.p.
>
> Few hours later, he called back and said he called Yahya on Skype but
> could not reach him. It was his daughter who picked the call (this was not
> the first time he told that he called Yaya Jallow on Skype but got his
> daughter instead). He said the daughter told her that she was not fine. And
> when he enquired, the daughter said because she was denied a US visa. He
> expressed empathy and urge to daugher to keep trying. He the enquired when
> Yaya Jallow was going to be available. The daughter gave some indications.
> The person then promised to call back at those times. The conversation
> ended with a usual bye. How you guys can call this interrogation is beyond
> me. In any case, the call happened after the story was already published in
> freedom and Yahya was also heard been questioned over freedom radio.
>
> After the person finally got in touch with Yahya Jallow himself, he again
> called to brief me about the issue.  He said yahya jallow confirmed the
> story and said he wasn't worried himself but the daughter whose education
> was more important to him than anything else. I then ask that to call the
> embassy and plea with them to reconsider the decision. The person told him
> he was not going to do that since this was a professional decision made in
> a governmental agency and that he was not going to interfere with that.
> Yahya jallow then went on to talk others i.e his studies and several visits
> to the US, which are unrelated to the matter.
>
> At that point, my focus was to findout how the issue made its way to
> freedom's junk mailbag. I told the person to forget about everything and
> let's focus on that particular issue as it was very disturbing that such a
> sensitive high level information found its way into the rumour mill of the
> amateur freedomnewspaper and radio. I said to the person since UDP UK and
> UDP USA were not aware of this, we should contact banjul and findout who
> else they contacted in the diaspora on this matter and where they got an
> inivitation from. The person then said; well mr manneh was not happy with
> me so must have contacted the new york chapter instead. I interjected and
> said; that is mere speculation. There was a lot of mistrust between UDP USA
> and the New York guys at the tine.  He later called banjul to find answers
> to these critical question. we later jointly spoke to another leading
> executive figure about the freedom leak. This was how the enquiry started.
> What was discovered are that;
>
> 1. The US Embassy had received specific information about Yahya Jallow's
> alleged past activity(s) long before (probably a yr or more) he submitted
> his visa application.
>
> 2. Yahya Jallow was advised a member of the executive not submit his
> daughter's student visa application together with his own application for
> there was a concern that if an adverse decision was made against his
> application, his daughter's too will be affected. Mr Jallow clearly did not
> heed to this advice.
>
> 3. Apart from the people within the UDP New York and others that they and/
> Mr Jallow may confide with, nobody with the UDP diaspora knew about Mr.
> Jallow application to the US Embassy in Banjul.
>
> 4. Only the executive committee and mr jallow's immidiate family knew
> about his application to the embassy.
>
> 5. Based on  above, only the UDP New York guys and their confidents or a
> member of UDP's own national executive or somebody he/she confided with
> would have leaked the info to the amateur freedomnewspaper.
>
> The matter was narrowed down to four suspects. Three in New York and one
> in Banjul. Some of them had been in recent contact with mr jallow.
> Apparently when those names were mentioned to mr Jallow in a line of
> enquiry (i did not speak to him myself) he painted them all with the
> Vatican brush of saints saying that they are more or less himself and would
> not cause him any harm, and i was like well if some of them can come on
> freedom radio trying to create a negative image for the party; giving a
> false impression that it is a divided party and even hold the sovereign
> will of our national congress in contempt, then they can also sabotage the
> party in this way too through the same freedom medium. I understand that mr
> Jallow was not from that point easy to talk to and was throwing his own
> wild accusations against this person you alluded because he thought that
> person does not like him because of his political nexus with lawyer darboe.
> He said this to few people including Suntou Touray.
>
> I also understood that Lawyer Darboe personally made efforts to talk to mr
> Jallow upon his (mr Darboe) from paris to calm him down and re-engage his
> focus on UDP. He was unsuccessful. He also sent elders to meet mr Jallow
> and discussion the matter. They too found him uneasy and uncompromising.
> People then decided to get there focus back on the campaign. This is the
> matter went to rest. So for people like you to come here an insinuate that
> somebody within the UDP USA was responsible for mr Jallow's visa is not
> only baseless but rather unfortunate.
>
> I noticed that you guys in New York have been saying a lot about the UDP
> USA folks and I find that quite unpleasant.  I personally took the
> initiative to investigate this including some of the things you pasaikou
> told me, and what I found is that most of the things you guys accused them
> of are baseless and merely borne by your perception of them. Even those
> with some elements of credence, the facts are utterly misrepresented. This
> is the truth.
>
> The UDP USA had the same problem and I have always dismissed their
> allegations against you as baseless where I know the facts because I spoke
> to some of you too plus three of your colleagues in the NewYork chapte, or
> speculative if they can't substantiate their claim. But the problem is
> mainly with you guys in New York and it's not a UDP problem but some
> personal issues you have with one and other. I don't care what anybody says
> for this is the truth.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> , 29 January 2014, Pa. Saikou Kujabi <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> May I start off by thanking Demba for hosting that very interesting and
> revealing interview. As in many cases, a friend drew my attention to this
> particular interview. I would also like to say kudos to the panelist for
> thoroughly outlining UDP's position on some of what I consider as "the
> burning issues" on the minds of many Gambians. Among those issues, is the
> suggestion by some that Lawyer. Darboe should lead a mass protest in the
> streets of Banjul or elsewhere.
>
>  I say no to that. Let the people lead themselves. It is then and only
> then will it be a true revolution. Some cited popular uprisings in Egypt,
> Tunis, and Syria as a template for The Gambia. To that also I say, look
> closely and tell me who led the protests in Egypt, in Tunis, and who are
> leading the arm struggle against Basar Al-Asad. Certainly not the
> politicians. If the people in The Gambia demand their country, and they
> take the lead, then they will own the revolution, hire and fire, have the
> ability for the first time to hold their leaders accountable to THE PEOPLE.
> I do not have all the time in the world to elaborate more on this
> controversial but important topic.
>
> On the issue of Deputy Leader. Yaya Jallow, I would like to register
> upfront that I am not speaking for him, and neither am I assuming that he
> would like all that I may express here. I am compelled to set the record
> straight only because I was directly involved in initiating the visa
> application process. First and foremost, it was UDP's Administrative
> Secretary, Ebraima Manneh who contacted the UDP New York Chapter through
> Hon. Saihou Mballow on June 12, 2011 for an invitation letter.
>
> Saihou, however, informed Mr. Manneh that I was the interim coordinator of
> the chapter, but that he will ask me to call him as soon as I could. When
> Hon. Mballow told me about the issue, I called Mr. Manneh right away. I
> must say, that by Mr. Manneh's own confession, the party turned to the New
> York chapter only after three long months of unsuccessful attempts to
> secure such a letter from the so-called UDP--USA organization, without
> saying much.
>
> Given the urgency of the, only the key figures of the chapter were
> informed about the request. I was then mandated to write the letter and
> send it electronically to the US. Embassy, and copy it to Mr. Manneh.
> According to the contents of the letter, which, by the way was coordinated
> with the Administrative Secretary Manneh, and addressed to the Secretary
> General & Leader of the party Lawyer. Ousaino Darboe, stated in no
> technical terms, that we expected Ousainou to lead the delegation for a
> three weeks fund raising tour around the US. The letter also stated
> categorically that in the event Ousainou cannot travel to U.S, we would
> like deputy leader Jallow to lead the high powered delegation.
>
>

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