What in the world is this man talking about Ndokeh? What issue do you have in Kaolack that needs my beautiful hands on deck??? I'm busy with La-Guinea and Gambia. You can handle Wade and Mr. Fantastique by your lonesome Badou. Don't sell yourself short. Besides I'm not a communist. What're you doing in Kaolack???????????????
Haruna.
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From: Banura Samba <[log in to unmask]>
To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wed, Jul 14, 2010 9:18 pm
Subject: Re: Kartong Folonko.. an History.. Is it an Idol or what?
I can see you like Badou now but why can you join me in Kaolack and my BadouSilo but not HarunaSilo.........?
You stated :As Badou of Kaolack is wont to quip " Really, with honesty, I do not meant to "quippy" a quip at you. Meaning a srcastic or wounding remark but to give you quinine as medicine for cure. The reality is we have an issue back home which needs all hands on deck .
Therefore, lets work as hands and gloves to free our people.thanks.
You wrote the following and I do not even know what the topic is about.
"Very well said Jaakhanko. As the seasons change. Man has always had religion. Islam and Christianity notwithstanding. Those two religions are tourists in Gambia and much of Africa. We should make them all apply for new visas. HarunaSilo approves and issues religious visas. I can't rely on Yahya's mental state.
Friggin Jaakhanko. KukehSilo. More like damned if you do damned if you don't. As Badou of Kaolack is wont to quip.
Haruna."
From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 5:06:34 PM
Subject: Re: Kartong Folonko.. an History.. Is it an Idol or what?
Very well said Jaakhanko. As the seasons change. Man has always had religion. Islam and Christianity notwithstanding. Those two religions are tourists in Gambia and much of Africa. We should make them all apply for new visas. HarunaSilo approves and issues religious visas. I can't rely on Yahya's mental state.
Friggin Jaakhanko. KukehSilo. More like damned if you do damned if you don't. As Badou of Kaolack is wont to quip.
Haruna.
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From: Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wed, Jul 14, 2010 1:06 pm
Subject: Re: Kartong Folonko.. an History.. Is it an Idol or what?
As some wise guy once, the only constant is change, thus we should not
be disappointed when use and purpose of these places change with the
people who live by them. Even Kaaba in Makka had seen such changes.
Early Muslims pre-1800 must be commended for understanding that you can
have a Folonko or Maka Kolibantang or Jambatsanneh and be Muslim. An old
Tilibonka or is the Harunasiloo prayer goes, "ngha kaa nyama n'maa kaa
nyama, Allah maa mutala" in short "Yallah daa la ham".
Malanding
suntou touray wrote:
> Absolutely Malanding I agree. This is why, I follow this kind of
> stuffs in our country. However, should they wish to remain with
> the old customs, that is
their prerogative. The issue at hand is as
> you said, they are site of immense importance, but in what sense? If
> it is historical, then it's all-inclusive, however should it be for
> Baato (worship), they should be bold to say so. This will make
> visitors aware of the multi-dimension of this sites.
> It will be helpful if you can at your free time help us identify this
> places. To be honest I don't know many of them. In my area of
> Wulli/Sandou, our folks like Makka Kolibantan Taba Konkoron. Its
> prominence has dwindled any way. Is the Kaabu/tilibo influence still
> hanging over us?
> Legends lives on....
> Suntou
>
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
> Suntou,
> The last I checked we have over 128 sites listed by the National
> Council for Arts and Culture as trading posts, historic and
> cultural sites. Not listed are hundreds or perhaps thousands of
> places sacred to those communities that claim them.
> Important to mention is that majority of Gambia's ruling
> class/landlords and perhaps the citizenry were not Muslims at
> around 1800. But like any human civilization everywhere, they
> created or preserve sacred places of worship. Perhaps our task
> should be to learn about who established them and why.
>
> Malanding
>
>
>
> suntou touray wrote:
>
> http://www.onegambia.com/orahistvids.php
> Check the play list and click on Kartong Folonko. The story
> is fascinating however, the denial by a village elder that, it
> is not an Idol is remarkeable. The equivalent of Kartong
> folonko is the Gunjure Sandy Mosque by the seas side (Kinyi
> Kenyi jamemw). The late Sheik Hatab Bojang rejected the
> rituals in Gunjure Sandy place. It is not a mosque as far i
> understand but a well close to the sea.
> The explanation of Kartong Folonko is both historically
> relevant and clouded in mystery. However, the place was own by
> the Sonenkes in the past. their practices may have been
> imported within the current rituals.
> The narrator emphasises that, there is no Idol in Folonko.
He
> said Folonko means, fon loo.. meaning to place your head on
> the ground The act was said to be performed by Omar Taal (Omar
> Futi)... A lot Sufi Myth is entangle with Omar Taal's legacy.
> Thanks Suntou
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