"and how you are the generous philantrophist helping out Muslims in
trouble and giving alms to Muslims who cheat you."
The lesson I learned from this is that to do something sincerely in the belief that this is what the ALmighty wants, brings a blessing, that is all.
Do you have the heart to discern other hearts?
> From: Momodou Buharry Gassama <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 2007/05/30 on PM 04:17:54 CEST
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Ämne: Re: Zionism as a Racist Ideology
>
> Cornelius,
> There are two concepts I would like to present before
> going fyrther. They are:
>
> 1. ?Perception management? - a "term used to describe the process of
> transforming public opinion to conform to a premeditated political
> agenda."
> 2. Doublethink which is ?? the power of holding two contradictory
> beliefs in one?s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. ? To
> tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them?. (http://www.
> globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=5058) I shall come back to
> them later.
>
> In your attempt to appear an innocent fighter against racism and anti-
> semiticism, you sent a list of articles that I forwarded and claimed to
> be "responding to some of the anti-Semitic and downright racist anti-
> Zionist articles" that I posted. Before posting anything about Israel,
> I posted various articles dealing with propaganda, anti-imperialism
> etc. for those who are interested to read and those who are not to
> delete. Some of these articles were:
>
> - Conflict Diamonds: "A Linguistic Deception"
> - Understanding Empire: Hierarchy, Networks and Clients
> - Blair's legacy: Militarism a broad, social devastation at home
> - Deconstructing the Founding Myths of France's Greatness
> - Fascist America, in 10 easy steps
> - Freedom of Expression in an Era of State Terror
> - No hoods. No electric shocks. No beatings. These Iranians clearly
> are a very uncivilised bunch
> - Propaganda and the Politics of Perception
> - The Battle over Zimbabwe's Future
> - Bush and Islam: Words versus Deeds
> - Fidel Castro - The Internationalization of Genocide: Transforming
> Food into Fuel
> - THE FBI'S COVERT ACTION PROGRAM TO DESTROY THE BLACK PANTHER PARTY
>
> and other articles. You stayed mute and didn't even lift an eyelid.
> When I sent "Palestine & Israel: Know and Understand The Facts And
> Decide For Yourself ", the Zionist in you arose and you responded and I
> ignored you. My aim was not to send various articles about Israel but
> just to send articles relating to Panafricanism, neocolonism,
> imperialism etc. Kabir posted something about Israel and you responded.
> You tried to use the concept of perception management to try to form a
> favourable public opinion about Israel and Zionism. I did not want to
> get in direct contact with you and posted another article countering
> what you tried to portray. You posted something about Zionism not being
> racist and I sent something to counter that. You sent something about
> Israel being a democracy and I sent an article presenting another view.
> You see, you conveniently try to assert that I, suddenly and out of the
> blue, just started throwing these articles around with racist intent.
> The two concepts of "victim mentality" and "racism labelling" employed
> by Zionists to make gullible people and European and American sponsors
> of genocide scared to talk about Israel and what it does wrong will not
> work here. Do you think you have a right to make comments about France,
> Gambia, Sierra Leone etc. but we don't have a right to comment on
> Israel? You are not an innocent victim in this case and I don't care
> if you tie the racism label on me. You can do it until the cows come
> home and I wouldn't care and it wouldn't deter me from expressing my
> view about injustice be it in Israel, Sweden, Germany, America or
> Timbuktoo. Habib and Jabou have told you that people are not
> criticising Judaism as a religion or Jews as a people because that
> would be downright narrowmindedness. There are very decent and nice
> Jews just as are within other races and peoples and I do know some.
> What we have a problem with is the concept of Zionist racism. Do you
> see the difference or are you going to stick to the old Zionist "blur
> the landscape" concept of blurring the two and trying to hang the anti-
> semiticism label on anyoneone who dares say anything about Zionism and
> Israel? There are many Jews who are anti-Zionist. Some of articles I
> forwarded are written be Jews. One is written by an Israeli former
> Minister of Education? Is she anti-semitic? Aren't Arabs semites? How
> about your derogatory references to them? Are you anti-semitic? Here
> are a few links to Jews against Zionism websites: (http://www.
> jewsagainstzionism.com/ , http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/ , http://www.
> nkusa.org/ , http://www.jewishpeacefellowship.org , http://www.yesh-
> gvul.org/english.html and many more.
>
> In you application of the concept of "doublethink", you wrote:
>
> - "I have not been trying to defend anything" whilst defending Zionism
> and Israeli policies towards Palestinians most of which are very
> dehumanising.
> - "I have never criticized Islam either, not the religion Islam" and
> wrote:
> * "Militarism is therefore an ideal that Muslims follow, with the
> Prophet of Islam (S. A. W.) and Imam Ali (A.S.) as role model and this
> overemphasis on Jihad "
> * "One State, which the Dawa Party - four wives per man, full time,
> would overpopulate within one generation. Shall we leave it there?"
> * "What is the point of blowing innocent people up and going to hell
> in the process of creating a so called Islamic State?"
> * "The Jews are praying for peace all the Time. The SIDDUR is full of
> prayers for peace:................................ I have never heard
> or read a Muslim prayer for peace, since I was born, till now.
> Prayers for ?VICTORY over the unbelieving folk?, yes but peace? Never
> heard."
> * I find it a little disturbing, that the military agenda is at the
> top of Muslim?s political agenda?. "
> * Others would like to wipe out the ideological basis of terrorism.
> Yet others would like to wipe out terrorists/ their enemies??"
> * "There is always the divide and rule factor and the Shia/ Sunni
> dichotomy in Islam, provides that kind of balance ? if it comes to
> nuclear weapons too, an equilibrium of terror from both sides of the
> qibla."
> * "HAMAS has an Islamic agenda (does not seem to be taking the
> precedent of the Treaty of Hudaibiya, as seriously as one had hoped.
> Perhaps the Islamists will try to retake Spain this century ? all based
> on Dar al -Islam, who knows?)"
> * "The devil also has mass followers and recruits suicide bombers,
> officiates at literary bonfires, and does not want the real
> Prophets......."
>
> Should I continue? You see how you are speaking from both sides of
> your mouth? You see how you are professing to believe one thing and
> saying something completely different? You see how you keep
> contradicting yourself? You see how the contempt you have for Muslims
> keeps seeping through in your statements? You see how you try to
> convince us that you are an ok guy with a lot of Muslim friends whilst
> inadvertently betraying your true feelings through careless remarks?
> Another fib (we nickname it "ehem" in Gambia) you told was when you
> wrote:
>
> "The Arabs were able to persuade their South of the Sahara African
> brothers that ?Zionism is racism? probably with the help of some petro-
> dollars to grease the usual palms"
>
> This statement is not true and it is also derogatory because you are
> implying that black Africans are corrupt, cheap, without principles and
> can be bought. Isn't that racist? Find below the voting record of all
> the countries which voted for, against or abstained in that vote. Are
> Albania, Bangladesh, Brazil, Bulgaria, Byelorussian Soviet Socialist
> Republic, Cambodia, People's Republic of China, Cyprus, Czechoslovakia,
> German Democratic Republic, Grenada, Guyana, Hungary, India, Indonesia,
> Iran, Laos, Malaysia, Maldives, Malta, Mexico, Mongolia, Pakistan,
> Poland, Portugal, Sri Lanka, Turkey and Ukrainian Soviet Socialist
> Republic, and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics "South of the
> Sahara African brothers" with greased usual palms? You see how you try
> to "selmal" us? (pull a fast one on us). The following "South of Sahara
> African brothers" Central African Republic, Ivory Coast, Liberia,
> Malawi voted against and the following abstained: Botswana, Ethiopia,
> Gabon, Ghana, Kenya, Lesotho, Sierra Leone, Togo, Upper Volta, Zaire,
> Zambia. Were their hands also "greased"? Who did the greasing? You see
> how you look?
>
> You wrote:
>
> "The Jews are praying for peace all the Time. The SIDDUR is full of
> prayers for peace:................................I have never heard or
> read a Muslim prayer for peace, since I was born, till now. Prayers for
> ?VICTORY over the unbelieving folk?, yes but peace? Never heard."
>
> You try to give the impression that Muslims don't pray for peace but
> only pray for victory basically because they are a warlike people. You
> know that that is not true but once in the doublespeak mode, no bounds
> are available. Here are a few Muslim prayers for peace:
>
> ** "O God! O our Master! You are eternal life and everlasting
> peace by Your essence and attributes. The everlasting peace is from You
> and it returns to You. O our Sustainer! Grant us the life of true peace
> and usher us into the abode of peace. O Glorious and Bounteous One! You
> are blessed and sublime.
>
> Allahumma ya mowlana antas-salaam, wa minkas-salaam, wa ilaika yarjaus-
> salaam, haiyyina rabbana bis-salaam, wa adkhilna daras-salaam,
> tabarakta rabbana wa-ta'laita, ya zal jalali wal ikram "
>
> ** In the name of Allah, the beneficent, the merciful. Praise be to
> the Lord of the Universe who has created us and made us into tribes and
> nations, that we may know each other, not that we may despise each
> other. If the enemy incline towards peace, do thou also incline towards
> peace, and trust in God, for the Lord is the one that heareth and
> knoweth all things. And the servants of God, Most Gracious are those
> who walk on the Earth in humility, and when we address them, we say
> "Peace." "
>
> ** "A Prayer for Brotherhood - The Believers are but a single
> Brotherhood: So make peace and reconciliation between your two
> (contending) brothers;
> and fear Allah, that ye may receive Mercy." Al-Hujurat 49:10 |
> Source: The Qu'ran
>
> ** "Oh God, You Are Peace
> Oh God,
> You are peace.
> From you comes peace,
> To you returns peace.
> Revive us with a salutation of peace,
> And lead us to your abode of peace. "
>
> - Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)
>
> Are these prayers for war or victory over "unbeleieving folk"? You see
> how you have caught again?
>
>
> You wrote:
>
> "It is widely reported that one of the Prophet of Islam?s last wishes
> before he blessed the hereafter with his presence, was to rid the Hijaz
> of any Jewish presence. "
>
> I shall forward under separate cover Muhammad's (peace and blessings
> of Allah be upon him) dealings with the Jews and a treaty with them and
> others. You and fellow Zionists try to take the circumstances of over a
> thousand years ago and juxtapose them alongside conditions today and
> try to paint Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) as a
> violent person. I can point out many Jewish prophet's violence (eg.,
> Moses, peace be upon him) and immorality but I cannot slander him and
> the other prophets because I am commanded by Islam to have high regards
> for them. The so-called "violence" perpetrated by Muhammad (peace and
> blessings of Allah be upon him) against Jews pales in comparison to
> what the Europeans did to them, what America and Israel have done to
> the Arabs and other people of the World. You see, you can't pull a fast
> one here either.
>
> Your haughtiness and sense of self-aggrandisement coupled with self-
> deception compel you write self-righteous applesauce such as:
>
> - "We are far too intelligent for that and even today I prefer the
> company of a good book (like Amos Oz?s ?A Tale of Love and Darkness?)
> to that of a lout."
> - "There is no war going on between US and Iraq."
>
> and how you are the generous philantrophist helping out Muslims in
> trouble and giving alms to Muslims who cheat you. Get your head out of
> the clouds and come back to earth man! Sitting on your high horse and
> narrating your life history is not interesting to me and probably many
> others. Through what you wrote, you stated some personal positions. I
> asked you questions relating to those. I am not interested in reading
> someone else's opinions about what they believe. If I wanted to know
> what Professor so and so thinks, i would have asked you Professor so
> and so thinks. I asked you questions. Either answer them or take the
> fifth for fear of incriminating and contradicting yourself but don't
> point me to any links because I am not going to click on them. The
> questions are there. You can answer one question per day or week if you
> want but give me your opinion and not someone else's. You also wrote:
> "much love". What I want from you is not love but honest answers to my
> questions or a refusal to answer them or silence.
>
> Buharry.
>
>
> P.S.
> There were typos in my previous posting, which I realised after
> sending it.
>
> D.S.
>
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> ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>
> ---the United Nations voted, 97 to 35
> Voting record
>
> Voting record Sponsored by: (25) Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Cuba,
> Dahomey, Egypt, Guinea, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libyan Arab
> Republic, Mauritania, Morocco, North Yemen, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia,
> Somalia, South Yemen, Sudan, Syrian Arab Republic, Tunisia, and United
> Arab Emirates.
>
> Voted yes: (72) The 25 sponsoring nations above, and additionally 47
> nations: Albania, Bangladesh, Brazil, Bulgaria, Burundi, Byelorussian
> Soviet Socialist Republic, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, Chad,
> People's Republic of China, Congo, Cyprus, Czechoslovakia, Equatorial
> Guinea, Gambia, German Democratic Republic, Grenada, Guinea-Bissau,
> Guyana, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Iran, Laos, Madagascar, Malaysia,
> Maldives, Mali, Malta, Mexico, Mongolia, Mozambique, Niger, Nigeria,
> Pakistan, Poland, Portugal, Rwanda, São Tomé and Príncipe, Senegal, Sri
> Lanka, Tanzania, Turkey, Uganda, Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic,
> and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
>
> Voted no: (35) Australia, Austria, Bahamas, Barbados, Belgium, Canada,
> Central African Republic, Costa Rica, Denmark, Dominican Republic, El
> Salvador, Fiji, Finland, France, Federal Republic of Germany, Haiti,
> Honduras, Iceland, Republic of Ireland, Israel, Italy, Ivory Coast,
> Liberia, Luxembourg, Malawi, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua,
> Norway, Panama, Swaziland, Sweden, United Kingdom of Great Britain and
> Northern Ireland, United States of America, Uruguay.
>
> Abstaining: (32) Argentina, Bhutan, Bolivia, Botswana, Burma, Chile,
> Colombia, Ecuador, Ethiopia, Gabon, Ghana, Greece, Guatemala, Jamaica,
> Japan, Kenya, Lesotho, Mauritius, Nepal, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay,
> Peru, Philippines, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Thailand, Togo, Trinidad
> and Tobago, Upper Volta, Venezuela, Zaire, Zambia.
>
>
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> ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>
> ----Original Message----
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Date: May 30, 2007 12:59:09 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subj: Re: Zionism as a Racist Ideology
>
> ? For one who acknowledges that Gambia and Gambian fora
> are not significant in determining policy, you seem to be spending an
> awful lot of time trying to defend the indefensible.?
>
> I was responding to some of the anti-Semitic and downright racist
> anti-Zionist
> articles that you have been posting fiti-fata, these past twenty
> four hours all
> to prove that you are ?more sober and sophisticated than the half-
> baked
> ?.and can see through the mistruths, half-truths? etc.
>
> You posted these.
> 1. FWD: Palestine & Israel: Know and Understand The Facts And Decide
> For
> Yourself
> 2 FWD: 'Israel's Right To Exist': Is It A Real Issue?
> 3. FWD: The Occupation Of Palestine
> 4. FWD: 'Wiped off the Map' ? The Rumor of the Century
> 5. FWD: Palestine: Israeli Killing Fields
> 6. FWD: Israel's Right To Be Racist
> 7. FWD: Compassionate Oppression: Subjugating Your Inferiors With A
> Human
> Touch
> 8. Fwd: Holocaust Museum: Israeli Holocaust Against Arabs
> 9. FWD: Zionism and the Media
> 10. FWD: Zionism as a Racist Ideology
> 11. FWD: A Review Of The Ethnic Cleansing Of Palestine By Ilan Pappe
> 12. FWD: UN RESOFWD: Various Articles On The Farce Of Israeli
> Democracy
> 13. FWD: Various Articles On The Farce Of Israeli Democracy
> 14. FWD: Answering Zionist Propaganda
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> You are all very important as people, most of you are Muslims, and I
> have
> nothing against that.
> I have not been trying to defend anything.
> I have posted some links and you may believe what you want.
> I don?t know whether answering your twenty questions will make any
> difference, but please give me some time to think about it, and I will
> try to
> answer them in my own personal way.
> Of course, you know that avoidable or unavoidable human suffering
> and
> tragedy causes much pain to all of us. The daily carnage that we
> witness on
> TV, from Iraq, sometimes I wonder if we are still human beings.
>
> (Have you tried to obtain Saudi citizenship yet?)
>
> I could ask you twenty easy questions, but you don?t have to convince
> me
> about anything. I am not easily convinced and if you are destined to
> follow the
> prophet Moses, so be it, if not it doesn?t mean that you are going to
> go ? to
> hell.
>
> I CAN TELL YOU THIS: THAT SINCE Israel?s ?Independence day? 59 years
> ago,
> ISRAEL HAS NOT KNOWN A SINGLE DAY OF PEACE.
>
> http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA
>
> It?s akin to the period 610-623 of Islam. You could say that the whole
> period
> during which the Islamic revelation took place, was during a state of
> emergency.
> There has been much more bloodshed among and between Muslims since
> that
> time, though not on the scale of the 2nd World War bloodshed was
> concentrated within six years.
>
> Militarism is therefore an ideal that Muslims follow, with the
> Prophet of Islam
> (S. A. W.) and Imam Ali (A.S.) as role model and this overemphasis on
> Jihad
> etc and Palestinians unwillingness to negotiate is what puzzles me.
>
> I find it a little disturbing, that the military agenda is at the top
> of Muslim?s
> political agenda?. And oh yes, the Shia have also suffered very much?.
> As
> you well know.
>
> The year was 1987, and this was my first Sufi Teacher and this is how
> I met
> him: I was once sitting with some Gambian friends. One of them was
> lamenting
> something ? and BLACK is my weakness.
> There and then, I counted the sum of eight thousand Kronor and handed
> it
> over to him as a loan. He needed the money. Later on, when I asked him
> for it,
> he told me to get out? did we sign any paper etc.
> In the first week of Ramadan, I was reading the Qur'an and came to
> the
> section where it said that if someone owes you some money, give him
> more
> time to pay it, but it would be even better, if you waived it as
> Sadaka, and I
> did just that. I wrote a letter to this my Gambian friend, and told
> him that this
> was Ramadan sadaka from me to him.
> Immediately after that, I was impelled to go to Vattumannen Bookshop
> -
> three minute walk from where I lived, and there I bought, ?In the
> Paradise of
> the Sufis? by Dr. Javad Nurbakhsh. When I got home, I opened the book,
> on
> the first page or so, saw an address, and phone number. (Of course, I
> thought
> that Dr. Nurbakhsh the author was in Iran. I called the London
> Branch
> number, and was told that Dr. Nurbakhsh was not at home, and could I
> call
> the Khaniqah, later. I did so half an hour later and talked to Dr.
> Nurbakhsh I
> think that it was on a Monday, and he said that I could see him on
> Wednesday, in London.
> After I put down the phone. I danced - I mean DANCED and cried for
> half an
> hour.
> I was there on Wednesday, popped in to see my mother at Edgware, and
> stayed with her that week.
> Within fifteen months I went so see Dr. Nurbaksh eight nine times ?
> eight
> times in London and once in Cologne, Germany when he invited me to
> the
> opening of the Khaniqah there.
>
> But that was just the beginning of something and I tell you this (it?s
> not a
> secret) because I want you to understand that I am not some unfeeling
> brute
> who wants to slaughter any Muslim heaven forbid, or Palestinian, but
> in a
> them or US situation what do you do?
>
> http://www.google.se/search?
> hl=en&rlz=1T4ADBR_enSE222SE222&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&
> q=DR.+Nurbakhsh+on+LOVE
>
> So, sabre, please, my Judaism puts a lot of emphasis on CHESED,
> perhaps my
> greatest weakness and with that too, I will try to answer your
> questions.
>
> Much love,
>
> Cornelius
>
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