Mr.Ceesay,
           it is easy to come up with a rubbish
allegation against someone but to substantiate it is
an other thing.

There is no escaping the fact that Jammeh and his
AFPRC regime are the original architects of the worst
terror in the Gambia a fact you are trying to distort.

The very day Yahya leaves office, a torture charges
will be brought against him , his aider s and abetter
s to face extradition to The Hague for trial and they
know about that which you hate to hear.

Almost a week now since L-members started debating on
this Chongan's issue but todate no fact is fort coming
from you or any credible source to tell us that
Chongan was as terrible as the present tyrants ruling
our country.Basically you are still unable to convince
me and any balance minded person by telling tales on
the L that chongan was a murderer like
Singhateh,Yankuba, Sanna and Yahya.

 Dampha is not saying that Chongan has never done
something wrong but what he is aguing is that it is
fundamentally wrong to compare Chongan and these
tyrants-Yahya ,Edward,Yankuba and sanna's human rights
records.Would that make him a dictator? no.

 Put this case to rest because you cannot tarnish
Dampha's image.He is a humble and a credible person
who is always ready to fight for justice and for the
voiceless.

Unless we forget about our grudges,jealousy and
selfishness we are no where.
Saihou



--- saihou Mballow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Mr.Ceesay,
>           i are not here to joke.What do you mean by
> Dampha becoming a dictator and he is being help by
> myself and Hamjatta?Do you mean to tell me that i
> shouldn't speak my mind.
> Saihou.
>
> --- Lamin Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Kebba Dampha,
> > Whether you are the same Sam Sarr, Ebou Colley and
> > Kujabi, please take a
> > deep breath. Brother you are blowing out of
> > proportion. Why do you have to
> > feel so negatively emotional about this whole
> Chonga
> > thing? Or are you
> > Chongan too am not even sure.
> > Joe Sambou made a very honest contribution here,
> and
> > just because he
> > disagrees with you on this one does not mean that
> he
> > or any one else does
> > not want to join your sturggle. Take your way and
> > let someone take their's
> > is no way. Wake up and know that u are not the
> only
> > Gambian here.
> > Brother, you are becoming a dictator and helped by
> > pen-pals like Saikou
> > Mballow and follow-me Hamjatta. Let us be real and
> > face the reality.
> > I close on this issue.
> >
> > Lamin Ceesay.
> >
> >
> > >From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
> > list
> > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: WHAT HAPPEN TO US AT RIP.
> > >Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 08:40:29 -0400
> > >
> > >Joe, you see, these are the kinds of things that
> > sickens me at times. You
> > >opened your posting by saying that you  do not
> want
> > to be dragged into the
> > >mud. What are you trying to insinuate here? Where
> > did this mudslinging come
> > >from? Who came here and start talking about
> > people's personal lives and
> > >their drinking habits? Who was trying to portray
> > Chongan as a loose-canon
> > >that goes around assaulting people? And you turn
> > around and pretend that I
> > >was responsible for taking you to the gutter. AS
> I
> > told you yesterday, it
> > >was your own choice to say what you said to
> > Chongan. Stick to your guns.
> > >You should have counseled yourself a long time
> ago
> > that we have a bigger
> > >problem back home staring at us. Had you
> convinced
> > yourself of that when it
> > >mattered, you would not have jumped on Chongan
> the
> > way you did or support
> > >ous Ngum in his despicable assault on Chongan.
> > Instead, you would be
> > >talking
> > >about the crimes of Yankuba Touray, who for the
> > first time was pinned with
> > >Human Rights violations.
> > >As I said, say whatever you want about Chongan.
> But
> > for Heaven's sake, let
> > >it be the truth. When you also say that Yaya and
> > his cohorts are our bigger
> > >problem, also mean what you are saying. Don't say
> > that in one sentence and
> > >in the other you go around attacking people that
> > want to help get rid of
> > >Yaya; especially when those attacks add nothing
> to
> > the struggle. Now if you
> > >prove that Chongan is a Human Rights violator,
> how
> > would that help us? On
> > >the other hand, we in this struggle should
> realize
> > that we cannot have our
> > >cake and eat it. We cannot expect these people to
> > come out and try to help
> > >while we cherish every opportunity to try and put
> > them down. Some people
> > >can
> > >take that, but others will not bother if they
> know
> > such treatment awaits
> > >them when they want to join the struggle. Now I
> > hope people are beginning
> > >to
> > >realize why certain soldiers are relunctant to
> join
> > us. Most of these
> > >people
> > >have been forced to Yaya's camp or been made
> > indifferent to the plight of
> > >our people. Why? Because of these types of
> > unjustified attacks.
> > >As Mballow said and I tried to explain the other
> > day, the torture narrated
> > >by Chongan and Ebou Colly can NEVER be pinned on
> > Chongan. Baabaa Jobe was
> > >incarcerated for a 'crime' somewhat analogous to
> > the 'crime' Chongan was
> > >accused of. At that time, Chongan was among the
> > five most powerful Police
> > >Officers in the country. Baabaa Jobe was kept
> > opposite where Chongan lived.
> > >Have you ever heard Baabaa Jobe accuse Chongan of
> > torture? Now, Chongan did
> > >some things that no one is proud of. Is it
> > appropriate to bring that up at
> > >this stage and discourage the man from joining
> the
> > struggle; especially
> > >when
> > >the unsubstantiated allegations against him are
> in
> > no way comparable to the
> > >horrendous torture he was put under?
> > >You are right I have no monopoly to this
> struggle.
> > What made you even say
> > >that, I do NOT know. I have my own views about
> what
> > I want to do. I
> > >doggedly
> > >follow that. Others are free to follow their own
> > agenda. You can do
> > >whatever
> > >you want regarding this struggle. If I cannot
> > support you, I leave you
> > >alone. I will NOT try to put you down.
> > >I just hope from this exchange people now
> > understand why certain people are
> > >reluctant to join the struggle. This kind of
> > behavior will NOT deter me,
> > >but
> > >it can deter many. I shall continue to defend
> > Chongan and will challenge
> > >anyone that would want to peddle lies that
> Chongan
> > is worse than Yankuba
> > >Touray or committed more atrocities than these
> > vermin. I do NOT undermine
> > >people I know are genuinely trying to help.
> > >KB
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
> > >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
> > list
> > >><[log in to unmask]>
> > >>To: [log in to unmask]
> > >>Subject: Re: WHAT HAPPEN TO US AT RIP.
> > >>Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:02:30 -0000
> > >>
> > >
> >
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