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"Katim S. Touray" <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:
Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:15:36 -0500
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Hi folks,

I'm afraid I have to agree with many of you who wrote expressing your suspicion
that "Kebba Ceesay" IS Matarr Njie in Malaysia.  A Gambia-L subscriber brought
the issue to my attention yesterday, and told me that the following was what he
found when he checked out the [log in to unmask] address:

>    MIMOS (NET-JARING-NAT)
>    Malaysian Institute of Microelectronic Systems
>    7th Floor, Exchange Square
>    Off Jalan Semantan
>    50490 Kuala Lumpur
>    MALAYSIA
>
>    Netname: JARING-NAT
>    Netnumber: 161.142.0.0
>
>    Coordinator:
>       Awang-Lah, Mohamed B  (MBA-ARIN)  [log in to unmask]
>       60-3-9662800 (FAX) 60-3-9660245
>
>    Domain System inverse mapping provided by:
>
>    JARING.MY   192.228.128.20
>    MIMOS.MY   192.228.128.18
>    GATE1.JARING.MY  161.142.2.17
>    GATEN.JARING.MY  161.142.227.17
>    GATES.JARING.MY  161.142.212.17
>
>    Record last updated on 27-Sep-1996.
>    Database last updated on 25-Oct-1999 16:04:14 EDT.
>

A check of a posting from "Kebba Ceesay" and an e-mail from Matarr Njie
indicates that they both originated from the same IP Number, namely,
161.142.78.83.  I also found that "Kebba Ceesay" was subscribed to Gambia-L
just about 3 days ago, Oct. 24th, to be exact.  I don't know which Gambia-L
subscription manager subscribed him, because subscription and error messages
that the list generates to me are automatically deleted after I'm done reading
my mail.

However, I would advice all Gambia-L managers to from now on pay particular
attention to the headers of requests for subscription.  In particular, we
should not honor any request for subscription from the Malaysia IP Numbers,
192.*. and 161.* as indicated above. Genuine requests from the above addresses
will be verified by some other means, such as a known third party supporting
the request for subscription.  For your information, you can look at the IP
numbers in your e-mail messages by either one of the following procedures:

1.  With Microsoft Internet Mail and News (I don't have and don't want Outlook)

a) Hightlight the message by clicking on it once
b) In the menu bar, click on FILE, then PROPERTIES, and the click on the
DETAILS tab.

You will then see the header information displayed thus:

> Received: from smtp1.chorus.net (smtp.itis.com [209.83.0.138])
>       by mail.chorus.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA11647
>       for <[log in to unmask]>; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 04:52:01 -0500 (CDT)
> Received: from maelstrom.stjohns.edu (maelstrom.stjohns.edu [149.68.1.24])
>       by smtp1.chorus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Chorus Networks) with ESMTP id EAA15665
>       for <[log in to unmask]>; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 04:52:01 -0500 (CDT)
> Received: from maelstrom.stjohns.edu (149.68.1.24) by maelstrom.stjohns.edu
(LSMTP for >
> OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; Tue, 26 Oct
1999
> 5:50:48 - 0500
> Received: from MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU by MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
(LISTSERV-TCP/IP
>           release 1.8c) with spool id 5133243 for
>           [log in to unmask]; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 05:50:44 -0400
> Received: from web1703.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.214) by
maelstrom.stjohns.edu
>           (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id
>           <[log in to unmask]>; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 5:50:43 -0500
> Received: from [161.142.78.83] by web1703.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 26 Oct 1999
>           02:55:47 PDT
> MIME-Version: 1.0

Please note that I've added the greater than symbol (>) in the above quote to
set it apart from my message.  Also, note that in the originating IP number
(161.142.78.83) is listed in the last line before the MIME-Version info.
Similarly, the destination address is always on the first line.

2. Netscape Messager:

a) Click once on the message to highlight it
b) On the menu bar, click on VIEW, then HEADERS, and then ALL to view all the
header information of the message.
c) Look for the field called the X-Originating-IP to locate where the mail came
from

If you're not sure where the IP number belongs, copy and paste it in the search
engines to the Asia-Pacifi Network Information Center (APNIC) at:

        http://www.apnic.net/apnic-bin/whois.pl

 or at ARIN at:

        http://www.arin.net/whois/arinwhois.html

By the way, I will be deleting the "Kebba Ceesay" address, to avoid any further
attempts by Matarr to send mail to the list.  I would advice to save himself
the trouble of impersonating and using different names to get on Gambia-L.  In
any case, our list postings are accessible to the public, as indicated at the
bottom of this posting.  All he has to do is visit our archives once in a while
to keep abreast of our discussions, and he can then do whatever he wants to.
But he cannot refuse to accept common rules of decency and good manners, and at
the same time expect the same previlidges as those who do, or at least try to.

One final, and unrelated note.  Please refrain from sending subscription
requests to the list.  You'll probably notice that no one does anything about
such requests because I've indicated a number of times here that such requests
should be sent directly to the list managers.  Besides, every posting on
Gambia-L has information about how to unsubscribe/subscribe and/or read our
archives, and so there's no excuse for people to keep sending such requests to
the list.

I suppose that's about all for now.  Have a great week, and best wishes.

Katim

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