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>From: Lexington Area Muslim Network <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: From the Desk of Ahmad Deedat
>Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 12:04:16 -0400
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>Lexington-Net * Lexington Area Muslim Network * http://leb.net/lexington
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>From the Desk of Shaikh Ahmad Deedat,as dictated to his Secretary:
>
>Straight from the book of Ezekiel Chapter 23 in the Bible (English-NIV)
>
>The word of the LORD came to me:
>2"Son of man, there were two women, daughters of the same mother.
>3They became prostitutes in Egypt, engaging in prostitution from their
>youth.
>In that land their breasts were fondled and their virgin bosoms caressed.
>4The older was named Oholah, and her sister was Oholibah. They were mine
>and
>gave birth to sons and daughters. Oholah is Samaria, and Oholibah is
>Jerusalem.
>5"Oholah engaged in prostitution while she was still mine; and she lusted
>after her lovers, the Assyrians--warriors
>6clothed in blue, governors and commanders, all of them handsome young men,
>and mounted horsemen.
>7She gave herself as a prostitute to all the elite of the Assyrians and
>defiled herself with all the idols of everyone she lusted after.
>8She did not give up the prostitution she began in Egypt, when during her
>youth men slept with her, caressed her virgin bosom and poured out their
>lust upon her.
>9"Therefore I handed her over to her lovers, the Assyrians, for whom she
>lusted.
>10They stripped her naked, took away her sons and daughters and killed her
>with the sword. She became a byword among women, and punishment was
>inflicted on her.
>11"Her sister Oholibah saw this, yet in her lust and prostitution she was
>more
>depraved than her sister.
>12She too lusted after the Assyrians--governors and commanders, warriors in
>full dress, mounted horsemen, all handsome young men.
>13I saw that she too defiled herself; both of them went the same way.
>14"But she carried her prostitution still further. She saw men portrayed on
>a
>wall, figures of Chaldeans [1] portrayed in red,
>15with belts around their waists and flowing turbans on their heads; all of
>them looked like Babylonian chariot officers, natives of Chaldea. [2]
>16As soon as she saw them, she lusted after them and sent messengers to
>them
>in Chaldea.
>17Then the Babylonians came to her, to the bed of love, and in their lust
>they
>defiled her. After she had been defiled by them, she turned away from them
>in disgust.
>18When she carried on her prostitution openly and exposed her nakedness, I
>turned away from her in disgust, just as I had turned away from her sister.
>19Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her
>youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt.
>20There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of
>donkeys
>and whose emission was like that of horses.
>21So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom
>was
>caressed and your young breasts fondled. [3]
>22"Therefore, Oholibah, this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will stir
>up
>your lovers against you, those you turned away from in disgust, and I will
>bring them against you from every side--
>23the Babylonians and all the Chaldeans, the men of Pekod and Shoa and Koa,
>and all the Assyrians with them, handsome young men, all of them governors
>and commanders, chariot officers and men of high rank, all mounted on
>horses.
>24They will come against you with weapons, [4] chariots and wagons and with
>a
>throng of people; they will take up positions against you on every side
>with
>large and small shields and with helmets. I will turn you over to them for
>punishment, and they will punish you according to their standards.
>25I will direct my jealous anger against you, and they will deal with you
>in
>fury. They will cut off your noses and your ears, and those of you who are
>left will fall by the sword. They will take away your sons and daughters,
>and those of you who are left will be consumed by fire.
>26They will also strip you of your clothes and take your fine jewelry.
>27So I will put a stop to the lewdness and prostitution you began in Egypt.
>You will not look on these things with longing or remember Egypt anymore.
>28"For this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am about to hand you over to
>those you hate, to those you turned away from in disgust.
>29They will deal with you in hatred and take away everything you have
>worked
>for. They will leave you naked and bare, and the shame of your prostitution
>will be exposed. Your lewdness and promiscuity
>30have brought this upon you, because you lusted after the nations and
>defiled
>yourself with their idols.
>31You have gone the way of your sister; so I will put her cup into your
>hand.
>32"This is what the Sovereign LORD says: "You will drink your sister's cup,
>a
>cup large and deep; it will bring scorn and derision, for it holds so much.
>33You will be filled with drunkenness and sorrow, the cup of ruin and
>desolation, the cup of your sister Samaria.
>34You will drink it and drain it dry; you will dash it to pieces and tear
>your
>breasts. I have spoken, declares the Sovereign LORD.
>35"Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: Since you have forgotten
>me
>and thrust me behind your back, you must bear the consequences of your
>lewdness and prostitution."
>36The LORD said to me: "Son of man, will you judge Oholah and Oholibah?
>Then
>confront them with their detestable practices,
>37for they have committed adultery and blood is on their hands. They
>committed
>adultery with their idols; they even sacrificed their children, whom they
>bore to me, [5] as food for them.
>38They have also done this to me: At that same time they defiled my
>sanctuary
>and desecrated my Sabbaths.
>39On the very day they sacrificed their children to their idols, they
>entered
>my sanctuary and desecrated it. That is what they did in my house.
>40"They even sent messengers for men who came from far away, and when they
>arrived you bathed yourself for them, painted your eyes and put on your
>jewelry.
>41You sat on an elegant couch, with a table spread before it on which you
>had
>placed the incense and oil that belonged to me.
>42"The noise of a carefree crowd was around her; Sabeans [6] were brought
>from
>the desert along with men from the rabble, and they put bracelets on the
>arms of the woman and her sister and beautiful crowns on their heads.
>43Then I said about the one worn out by adultery, `Now let them use her as
>a
>prostitute, for that is all she is.'
>44And they slept with her. As men sleep with a prostitute, so they slept
>with
>those lewd women, Oholah and Oholibah.
>45But righteous men will sentence them to the punishment of women who
>commit
>adultery and shed blood, because they are adulterous and blood is on their
>hands.
>46"This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Bring a mob against them and give
>them over to terror and plunder.
>47The mob will stone them and cut them down with their swords; they will
>kill
>their sons and daughters and burn down their houses.
>48"So I will put an end to lewdness in the land, that all women may take
>warning and not imitate you.
>49You will suffer the penalty for your lewdness and bear the consequences
>of
>your sins of idolatry. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign LORD."
>
>
>20. INCEST: “Sexual intercourse between two persons who are too closely
>related.” (New Collins Dictionary). For example, between father and
>daughter, son and mother, father-in-law and daughter-in-law, brother and
>sister, etc. INCEST IN GOD’S BOOK (?) BETWEEN A FATHER AND HIS DAUGHTERS:
>(a) “That night they (both the daughters of Lot) gave him (their father
>Lot)
>wine to drink and the older daughter had INTERCOURSE with him ... “The next
>day the older daughter said to her sister, I slept with him last night. now
>let’s get him drunk again tonight, and you sleep with him. Then each of us
>will have a child by our father. So that night they got him drunk and the
>younger daughter had INTERCOURSE with him ... “In this way both of Lot’s
>daughters became PREGNANT by their father. “ GENESIS 19:33-35 (From the
>“Good News Bible- In Today’s English”). In the older Versions, like the
>King
>James and the Roman Catholic Versions, “SEXUAL INTERCOURSE” is vaguely
>described as “COLLECTING THE SEED OF OUR FATHER.” INCEST BETWEEN MOTHER AND
>SON: (b) “While Jacob (Israel) was living in the land, Reuben (his
>firstborn, his eldest son) had SEXUAL
>INTERCOURSE with Bilhah, his father’s concubine. GENESIS 35:22. The older
>Versions of the Bible, use the word, “lay” for SEXUAL INTERCOURSE. INCEST
>BETWEEN FATHER-IN-LAW AND DAUGHTER-IN-LAW: © “When Judah saw her (Tamar,
>his
>daughter-in-law), he thought she was a prostitute, because she had covered
>her face. “He went over to her at the side of the road and said, “ALL
>RIGHT,
>HOW MUCH DO YOU CHARGE?” (He did not know that she was his daughter-in-law)
>{The words in parenthesis i.e. within brackets from He did not know to
>daughter-in-law are not in the original Hebrew manuscripts. They are the
>editors g loss.}
>
>“She said, what will you give me?” (To have sex with me) ‘He answered, I
>WILL SEND YOU A YOUNG GOAT FROM MY FLOCK “She said, “All right, if you will
>give me something to keep as a pledge until you send the ,goat. ‘ . . He
>gave them (the pledges) to her. Then had INTERCOURSE, and she became
>pregnant GENESIS 38: 15-18 (Quoted from the “Good News Bible”). CONCUBINE
>and WIFE are synonymous terms in the Bible. Look for it in the index under
>“KETURAH” (the third wife of Abraham). Out of this incestuous relationship
>between a father-in-law and his daughter-in-law, twins were born, who were
>destined to become the great-grand-fathers of Jesus Christ see Matthew 1:3;
>“And Judas begat Phares and Zarah of Thamar . . . INCEST AND RAPE BETWEEN
>BROTHER AND SISTER (d) “ . . he took hold of her (Thamar, his sister, not
>to
>be confused with Tamar in “c” above,, and said unto her, Come lie with me
>(have sex with me), my sister. “And she answered him, Nay, my brother
>(Amnon, one of the sons of David, the man after God’s own heart) do not
>force me . . . “But he would not listen to her, and since he was stronger
>than she was, he overpowered her and RAPED her (his sister). “ 2 Samuel
>13:5-14 WHOLESALE RAPE AND INCEST BETWEEN SON AND HIS MOTHERS! (e) So they
>set up a tent for Absalom (another son of King David) on the palace roof,
>and in the sight of everyone, Absalom went in and had INTERCOURSE with his
>father’s concubines “ 2 SAMUELS 16:22
>46.     SODOMY: The Bible’s reason why human beings become lesbians and
>homosexuals ‘Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and WORSHIPPED and
>SERVED the creature (like men and monkeys) more than the Creator . . .
>“BECAUSE THEY DO THIS (worshipping men and monkeys), God has given them
>over
>to shameful passions. Even women pervert the natural use of their sex by
>unnatural acts (like lesbianism and bestiality). “In the same way. . . the
>men burn with passion for one another (as sodomites and homosexuals) . . .
>ROMANS 1:25-27 (The Good News Bible).
>47.     SONS OF GOD: The Bible ascribes sons by the tons to God. (a) ‘Which
>was
>the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam,
>which
>was the SON OF GOD.” LUKE 3:38 (b) “That the SONS OF GOD saw the daughters
>of men that they were fair; and they took wives of all which they chose. “.
>. when the SONS OF GOD came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare
>children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of
>renown.” GENESIS 6:2 and 4 (c) “ . . Thus- saith the Lord, Israel is MY SON
>even my FIRSTBORN.” EXODUS 4:22 (d) “ . . and Ephraim is my FIRSTBORN,”
>JEREMIAH 31:9 (e) “ . . Thou (o David) ART MY SON; this day have I (God)
>BEGOTTEN thee. “ PSALMS 2:7 (TONS A ton is 2000 lbs weight, that is about a
>thousand kilograms.) (“FIRST BORN:” How can there be two “firstborns”?)
>(“BEGOTTEN” How can God beget David at the age of forty? “This day’?)
>
>(f) “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the SONS OF GOD.
>‘ ROMANS 8:14
>48.     SWINE: The flesh of the swine forbidden _ (a) “Of their flesh (of
>the
>swine) shall ye NOT EAT, and their carcass ye shall NOT TOUCH; they are
>unclean to you “ LEVITICUS 11:8
>
>Jesus (pbuh) destroyed 2000 pigs to heal one man— (b) “And forthwith Jesus
>gave them leave (permission). And the unclean spirits (the devils) went
>out,
>and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place
>into the sea (they were about two thousand); and were choked in the sea
>MARK
>5:13
>
>How to use COMBAT KIT.
>http://www.islamicresources.com/combatkit/Combat.htm
>
>From the Desk of Shaikh Ahmad Deedat,
>as dictated to his Secretary.
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