Kebba,
Sorry, for my late response. I got the Essa " School fees " Sey from Kerr Kunta
( Kuntaya ). Essa has a brother too by the name Ablie " School fees " sey. He
attended Armitage High School. Essa is our friend..
Elhajj.
Dampha Kebba skrev:
> Elhajj, although the day is still young here in the East Coast of the United
> States, I must say that you made my day. Today each time some one tries to
> foul my day, I will just go reread your piece and the brilliant rejoinder
> Bambalaye sent to his earlier piece on the mediocre running our country.
> Essa “school fees” Sey! Elhajj where did you get that one from? Rest assured
> that the moron will NOT ‘Jakaar loh’. He might be a mental midget but he
> knows how to self-preserve. During the campaign when he thought Yaya was
> going to lose, he was markedly different from what you used to see and what
> you will be seeing henceforth. The moron faked an illness just to stay away
> from the fray in Banjul and the aftermath of a Yaya defeat.
>
> Just like I pinned him down yesterday on the Millennium Airline thing, I
> will be following his postings thoroughly and will use his OWN material to
> hang him. Just watch. Elhajj, both you and BambaLaye touched on a very
> important point; and that is Yaya and his cohorts use a very distorted form
> of Islam to prey on gullible Gambians. Part of it is because the mental
> midgets do NOT understand Islam. But another aspect is that some so-called
> religious leaders in the country have deliberately decided to be the Devil’s
> advocate, willingly spread distorted interpretations of Islam. Clearly, both
> groups (the mental midgets and the dubious religious leaders) are all very
> strong candidates for Hell Fire.
>
> Elhajj, what can be more despicable than saying that God ‘ordained’ that
> Yaya be the leader and order the massacre of innocent and defenseless
> children? I frankly do NOT know what these people think God is. Do these
> people understand the concept of ‘Free Will’ in Islam? Do they understand
> why God gave man a conscience and a brain to distinguish between right and
> wrong? DO they understand the difference between man and wild animals in the
> wilderness? Elhajj, as know, these questions calls for some deep pondering.
> The answers to these questions do NOT lie in classrooms in the U.S. or
> England or what have you. One can also read the Koran from cover to cover
> and also NOT find the answers. Not wishing to ignite a religious debate, I
> will keep some of the answers to myself. But I think Elhajj that some time
> in the past, I communicated to you in private where lies some of these
> answers.
>
> As some can probably tell, I do NOT like talking about religion. But I am
> getting increasingly convinced that people have to do something about the
> religious decadence in Gambia. Why should we allow mental midgets that do
> NOT understand Islam be the ones spreading LIES and saying that it is God’s
> word? Some men (who I do NOT know but friends told me spend a lot of time in
> bars drinking alcohol) ‘preaching’ people about God and morality in Islam.
> Hypocrites like Essa Sey and hateful vermin like ‘Imam’ Fatty (who thinks it
> was all right to slaughter innocent Americans) ‘preaching’ people about
> Islam. Elhajj, I have now resolved that it is our religious duty to also set
> the record straight. We MUST NOT allow these people to LIE about God.
>
> It is absurd to say that God ‘ordained’ the evil that men do. If that was
> the case, we will NOT have Heaven and Hell and there will be no Satan. Islam
> also does NOT say that citizens have to succumb to every leader and take all
> sorts of abuse from them because God ‘ordained’ that they lead. Remember how
> Islam started? Islam was a revolution. The status quo was changed. God did
> NOT tell the Prophet to just follow the religion of the then king of Mecca.
> It is crazy how religious ‘leaders’ in Gambia will tell people to just
> succumb to Yaya because God ‘ordained’ that Yaya steal power and continue to
> use violence to stay in power and loot our meager resources in order to lead
> a flamboyant life-style. I guess all the criminals (prisoners) in the
> country should be freed then because God ‘ordained’ that they commit crimes.
> This is absurd. God NEVER ordained that Yaya be a criminal that stole power
> and continue to enslave our people.
>
> What these religious ‘leaders’ should be preaching to their people are
> verses that teach us to stand up against EVIL. No one can deny that it is
> EVIL to slaughter innocent and defenseless children. Why these religious
> ‘leaders’ are NOT standing up against that, they will explain to God one
> day. Standing up against EVIL can be as negligible as just speaking up
> against EVIL. But no! The ‘leaders’ and the hypocrites in the country are
> trying to tell our people that it is God’s fault that some EVIL is going on
> in the country. From the bottom of my heart, Elhajj, I feel very sorry for
> these people. Because they do NOT know/understand God, they are NOT afraid
> of HIM. In His own time, God will show them. Just watch. Anybody that thinks
> that God ‘ordains’ the EVIL that men do, does NOT know a darn thing about
> Islam.
> KB
>
> >From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Yero Mama/The day of reckoning or recognising?
> >Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 07:00:10 +0100
> >
> >Kebba,
> >These people think they can come here and fool us on Islam, as they are
> >presently fooling the Gambian public. If they are true believers, why have
> >they
> >killed innocent people? Why are they going round peddling lies against
> >people ?
> >Why are the stealing the coffers of country ? Why are they still
> >intimidating,
> >maimimg and still intending to kill more people who don`t support them?
> >Believe
> >me Kebba, i smelt some coffee in Essa "school fees" Sey`s preachings. They
> >should thank God that Yaya Jammeh`s gun has benefited them to call
> >themselves
> >Ambassadors or whatever. Coming here to preach us in French will never
> >frighten
> >us, because we have people in this forum who can translate his preachings
> >into
> >five / six different languages. My message to Essa "school fees" Sey is
> >"La connaissance de la religion de L`lslam se compose de trois degrès:
> >1. AL-ISLAM, qui signifie la soumission complète à Allah.
> >2. AL-IMANE, qui signifie la foi absolute en ALLAH.
> >3.AL-IHSANE ( la charitè ou l`amèlioration de soi ). "
> >If Essa believes in what he is preaching here, then let us see him on the "
> >JAAKAR LOH " face to face confrontation with the devil of Islam.
> >
> >Elhajj.
> >
> >
> >Dampha Kebba skrev:
> >
> > > It is just hilarious how all of a sudden the vermin have found God. I
> >guess
> > > in their deviant minds it was God’s will that our defenseless children
> >be
> > > slaughtered and it was also God’s will that those hateful terrorists in
> >New
> > > York murder over 4000 innocent civilians. Oh God help us from such
> >TWISTED
> > > interpretation of the Koran. God help us from morons and drunkards
> >leaving
> > > bars and holding the Koran and giving erroneous interpretation of Your
> >Holy
> > > Book. Amen.
> > >
> > > Frankly, I thought Gassama and Essa Sey were morons, but I did NOT think
> > > that they will go to this extent whereby they will try in broad daylight
> >to
> > > bamboozle God, The Almighty. You guys think that when you are partaking
> >in
> > > your despicable deeds disobeying God, The Almighty is sleeping or taking
> >a
> > > vacation? Did God also ‘ordain’ that Hitler comes and slaughter Jews?
> >You
> > > people MUST be out of your minds. I am very serious when I say that if
> > > nothing else, please reread the Koran and Hadith and try and educate
> > > yourself. You are way off.
> > >
> > > Before I move to Gassama’s irrational rattling about his ‘wishes’ for
> >Gambia
> > > after the October Election, let me just point out one thing to Essa Sey.
> >In
> > > his quest to sound intelligent and make a point, the mental midget ended
> >up
> > > implicating his boss and showing the whole world that Yaya is blatantly
> > > breaking our laws by ‘owning’ a plane. Essa Sey just told us that Yaya
> >is
> > > indeed the owner of Millennium Airlines. After all, the UN Sanctions
> > > Committee got the wrong person. When they banned Baabaa Jobe (qua
> >Director
> > > of Millennium Airlines), they should have banned Yaya. That aside, our
> > > Constitution (as if Yaya respects the document) specifically prohibits
> >Yaya
> > > from involving in ‘business’ other than farming. Now Essa Sey is telling
> >us
> > > that Yaya is in the ‘business’ of hiring and firing people working for
> > > Millennium Airlines. You morons do NOT cease to amaze me.
> > >
> > > Now to tweedle-dee. Gassama, Hitler won elections in Germany. The man is
> > > still a Devil. Stealing elections by intimidating the masses does NOT
> >make
> > > Yaya a ‘good’ person with few faults (shortcomings) that some of us
> >should
> > > tolerate. In my book, the vermin forfeited his rights when he ordered
> >the
> > > massacre of our children. That is what you guys should also try and get
> >into
> > > your thick skulls. You keep trying to make us ignore the man’s faults.
> >We
> > > are telling you that those faults are so heinous that we CANNOT tolerate
> > > them. I hope you see the point now.
> > >
> > > You can delude yourself and think that the people that oppose Yaya in
> >this
> > > forum are in the minority. Not just this forum, but let me inform you
> >that
> > > the overwhelming majority of Gambians oppose Yaya. The moron spent
> >millions
> > > of dalasis during the last election. At the end of the day, he could
> >only
> > > ‘win’ because he ferried Casamance Jolas into the country to vote for
> >him.
> > > He also had vermin like you scaring people telling them that if Yaya
> >loses
> > > there will be turmoil in the country. The end result? Some innocent
> >Gambians
> > > put ‘security’ over everything else and succumbed to intimidation. I
> >tell
> > > the people that they are just postponing their ordeal.
> > >
> > > The proverbial ink was hardly dry when Yaya vindicated my point that
> >people
> > > were just postponing their ordeal. People that thought giving Yaya a
> > > ‘victory’ will bring peace to the country are sadly mistaken. Were those
> > > people not rounded up and jailed and their families and compounds
> >attacked
> > > by APRC thugs? What kind of ‘open mind’ do you suggest we look at the
> > > illegal detention of people like Muhammad Sillah, George Christensen and
> > > Baboucarr Gaye, to name a few? How do you suggest we look at the closure
> >of
> > > a Radio Station on the basis of some spurious civil (as opposed to
> >criminal)
> > > claims?
> > >
> > > You must be out of your mind to think that people will take seriously
> >Essa
> > > Sey’s silly gimmicks trying to serve as a person interested in dialog to
> > > bring sanity in our country. Of course we know that you, Essa Sey,
> >Tombong,
> > > Fatoumatta Jahumpa and all the APRC clowns on G_L are all a bunch of
> > > nonentities. You CANNOT and have no desire of speaking truth to Yaya
> >that
> > > will jeopardize your positions. I told people long time ago that talking
> >to
> > > you people is pointless. Yaya has to be DEFEATED (NOT negotiated with).
> >We
> > > know that you are all impotent in front of Yaya when he wants to do his
> > > diabolical deeds. You people CANNOT even help yourselves. Why should we
> > > expect you to help us when you do NOT even want to recognize the evil
> > > inherent in the massacre of our children? I understand that Yaya once
> >called
> > > one Mr. Ceesay to his (Yaya’s) office. Yaya showed Mr. Ceesay a list of
> >38
> > > people and told Ceesay that he (Ceesay) was a liar. Apparently, Yaya was
> > > miffed because Ceesay fed him wrong information and made him fire 38
> >civil
> > > servants unjustifiably (what’s new about that?). For feeding Yaya false
> > > information leading to the demise of those servants, Ceesay was also
> >fired.
> > > Guess who is the Mrs. of this Ceesay character. Now, tell me if I should
> > > trust Mrs. Ceesay that CANNOT fight for her husband to fight for
> >defenseless
> > > Gambian children.
> > >
> > > Gassama, I wonder what gave you the idea that you cannot make reference
> >to
> > > the Jawara days. Of course you can talk about that if you want. Just
> >don’t
> > > LIE. Because if you do, you will hear from me. If you read what you
> >wrote in
> > > your piece about the Jawara era, you will realize why you are confused
> >about
> > > writing about the Jawara era. How on earth can you say that the Jawara
> > > government “[subjugated] a whole nation through a deliberate policy of
> > > keeping them [absolutely] ignorant”? Emphasis mine. I wonder where you,
> > > Yaya, Essa Sey, Tombong, the entire Jahumpa family, all got your
> >education
> > > from.
> > >
> > > Soon you will begin to hallucinate that Yaya brought us Gamtel. In your
> >own
> > > twisted world, Yaya developed the container terminals at the Ports. Yaya
> >was
> > > the one that built Yundum airport from scratch. Yaya was the one that
> >built
> > > the roads in Banjul. Yaya started the Banjul Sewage project. You people
> >are
> > > simply pathetic. Gassama, some of us were in Banjul right before the
> >‘coup’.
> > > We are NOT ‘Doctors’ (no disrespect meant here) that left Gambia 20
> >years
> > > ago and do NOT know what Yaya put there and what he found there and
> >built
> > > on. This GRTS you are bragging about is a classic example of how you
> >mental
> > > midgets operate. The Yaya propaganda outfit (GRTS) almost bankrupted one
> >of
> > > the most productive companies in the country (Gamtel). A company we got
> > > thanks to the Jawara government. How did you morons try to rectify the
> > > situation? You resolved to bankrupt more companies just to have Yaya to
> >come
> > > on TV and insult our parents and threaten Gambians with death. You
> >proposed
> > > to have other ‘Parastatals’ together with Gamtel to continue financing
> >the
> > > losing proposition (GRTS).
> > >
> > > The University. ‘Meme chose’. Just amalgamated institutions Jawara put
> >there
> > > and called it Yaya’s invention. Feel free to discuss the past. Just be
> > > prepared to back up your rhetoric with facts.
> > >
> > > If anybody, I think you are the people that CANNOT come to terms with
> >the
> > > fact that Jawara is no longer in power. You are the ones always LYING
> >about
> > > the man in order to make Yaya look good. Left to me alone, we would only
> > > talk about Yaya since he is the one in power now and is the one that can
> > > order the massacre of defenseless children and loot our coffers. Let us
> > > focus on Yaya’s record, since you want to move from the so-called first
> > > republic.
> > >
> > > I am glad that your hopes and aspirations were dashed in the aftermath
> >of
> > > the elections. Your hopes of having a moron enslave our people will NOT
> > > materialize. We will continue to RESIST Yaya and cohorts like you. We
> >REFUSE
> > > to suffer from ALES. We know we deserve better than child murderers and
> > > thieves. We will fight until we get a leader that will develop the
> >country
> > > AND will NOT enslave our people and loot our meager resources. We will
> >see
> > > to an end to this sick mediocrity in Banjul.
> > > KB
> > >
> > > >From: Jungle Sunrise <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >Subject: Re: Yero Mama/The day of reckoning or recognising?
> > > >Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 13:19:44 +0000
> > > >
> > > >Yero Mama,
> > > >
> > > >It is very unfortunate that there are some seemingly intelligent people
> >who
> > > >doggedly want us to believe that they and they alone have opinions of
> >what
> > > >right and wrong are; and with that mindset they will resort to all
> >sorts of
> > > >abuse and vulgarity in an attempt to impose those opinions on all
> >others
> > > >with differing views. While some of us will not deny that Jammeh, like
> >all
> > > >humans, is not infallible and has faults, they hold on to the view that
> > > >Jammeh is the "devil reincarnate". To them, the 53% of mature Gambians
> >who
> > > >live in this hell of a place that they want the whole world to believe,
> > > >just
> > > >don't know what the hell they want. Are these people for real? I simply
> > > >cannot understand why a minority of shysters on this forum seem to
> >want
> > > >everyone to believe that they and they alone know what is best for the
> > > >country. He may represent some people's worst nightmares but not mine.
> > > >
> > > >When you suggest that we look into things with an open mind and see how
> > > >best
> > > >to bridge the gap between us through a better understanding of each
> >other's
> > > >points of view, they dogged refuse and writing you off as some
> >sycophant
> > > >who
> > > >has no human genes or sense in him. Some are only interested in
> >wallowing
> > > >in
> > > >Jammeh's shortcomings refuse to allow any objective discourse of any
> >othe
> > > >aspect of him knowing full well that jammeh's balance score card is not
> > > >that
> > > >difficult to rationalise or defend. When you suggest referring our
> >recent
> > > >past in order to better understand certain issues they will have none
> >of
> > > >it.
> > > >When you cannot make any reference to the Jawara days unless the issue
> >is
> > > >how The Gambia was "recognised" the world over for being a bastion of
> > > >"peace, tranquility and human rights" (whatever that means). What human
> > > >rights are they talking about when we were denied any significant form
> >of
> > > >development? What human rights is there when you subjugate a whole
> >nation
> > > >through a deliberate policy of keeping them aboslutely ignorant? Even
> >the
> > > >national radio to inform us of government policies they will not
> >maintain
> > > >it. We all remember the days when radio Gambia will be off the air for
> > > >hours
> > > >simply because a few five Dalasi fuses were not available. But no; we
> > > >cannot
> > > >talk about the past. If they don't want to discuss the PPP record
> >honestly
> > > >and compare it with what prevails now in its entirity, how on earth can
> > > >anyone come an informed conclusion about Jammeh or his government? Fact
> >of
> > > >the matter is that some just hate the guy and no matter what, they will
> > > >never see anything good in whatever he does. No wonder with that
> >mindset
> > > >some cannot still come to terms with the fact that the first republic
> >is
> > > >truely dead. Wistfully looking back to those days when nobody was
> > > >accountable for anything done in the name of the people will all be in
> > > >vain.
> > > >But try to point that out and you are a sycophant praise singing to
> >keep a
> > > >job. How ridiculous can one be to come such a simple conclusion is
> >beyond
> > > >me.
> > > >
> > > >I had very high hopes for the country when Jammeh was declared the
> >winner
> > > >of
> > > >the recently concluded elections and the leader of main opposition
> >party,
> > > >Ousainou Darbo called him to concede. Then, I had thought that the
> > > >relationship between the ruling party and the UDP will, from then on,
> >be
> > > >based on mutual respect and fruitful engagement. How quickly those
> >hopes
> > > >evaporated is mind boggling. Because the legitimacy of Jammeh's first
> > > >government was not fully accepted by some in the opposition and that
> >did
> > > >not
> > > >go down well with the APRC, I had assumed that this time round a new
> >era
> > > >had
> > > >dawned. I had assumed that the constant bickering and clashes between
> >the
> > > >two parties would soon come to an end and some degree of sanity
> >restored.
> > > >But no. No sooner did we heave a sigh of relieve that the tension in
> >our
> > > >country would soon be replaced by a unity of purpose to create a better
> > > >Gambia, the leadership of the main opposition UDP reneged on their
> >earlier
> > > >reconciliatory message of respecting the views of the electorate. It is
> > > >very
> > > >sad when you consider the implication this has for peace and peaceful
> > > >co-existence especially between the militant supporters of the two
> >parties.
> > > >As far as I am concerned everything seems to be back to square one. The
> > > >scene now seems to be set for more clashes betwen supporters of the two
> > > >parties, more arrests and detensions and more misery for all. And all
> >these
> > > >because some people cannot and will not accept the fact that, for now,
> >God
> > > >has destined Yahya to lead us. But as they say, an obstinate man does
> >not
> > > >hold opinions, but opinions hold him! Very unfortunate if you ask me.
> > > >
> > > >Have a good day, Gassa.
> > > >
> > > >>From: YERO MAMA <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > > >><[log in to unmask]>
> > > >>To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >>Subject: Re: Mohinder Bains/The day of reckoning or recognising?
> > > >>Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 06:36:52 +0000
> > > >>
> > > >
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