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Hamet Kalleh <[log in to unmask]>
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Congrats Mr Mboge, these are the things worth bragging
about. It's your sweat and tears. Mother Gambia is proud.
> Mr Mboge,
> Congratulations on graduation. Africa and Gambia  are proud to have you as a
> son.
> Pasamba
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: momodou olly-mboge
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 11:00 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: My Take, Suma Kadu.- please let us move on
>
>
>
>
> Teacher Gassama,
> Yet again i wonder how you are allowed to keep your job at Gamtel.  I struggled
> to understand your argument yet again.  Please help me my most erudite Engineer
> with the criminal record from Canterbury.
> You don't know zilch about me or many of the people you are debating with on
> this forum.  It seems that your deranged and twerpish brain membranes forces you
> to churn out the most inchoate and incoherent squeals i ever heard. As it goes
> with all the APRC zealots, rather than defend there record on human right
> abuses, economic mismanagement and the various crimes they are perpetrating
> against my people, they tend to portray an image that all the people opposing > Jammeh do not know about what obtained in the Gambia during the former
> government.  Mr Gassa, i abhoured Jawara's misrule and abuses.  I have always
> opposed Jawara and the PPP, however, in my book they fare much better than what
> we have now.  We are all familiar with the plight of the late Femi Jeng and many
> others.  We condemned the way Pa Hali Jammeh was harassed under the PPP regime
> and so on.   Now tell me Mr Gassama, are you serious in thinking that those who
> deployed the bad governance and economic mismanagement of the Jawara years
> should applaud the thuggery of the buffoon posturing as president.  Come on my
> teacher, come off the slumber.  You can do better.
> No sane person is disputing the need for investment in our fishing, energy and
> the various sectors in order to uplift the plight our people.  Our worry is how
> does all these so-called investments fare on the day to day lives of the
> ordinary Gambian.
> I am in a celebratory mood these days and i do not want your croaking to affect > me. Why? because  at a ceremony today at the School of Oriental and African
> Studies(University of London), I was conferred a BA(Hon.) in History and my
> certificate was presented to me by Lord Georfry Howe.  I now join the growing
> number of Gambians educating themselves  regardless of the hurdles they have to
> jump before they are successful.  I am not showing off because i know you have
> more accolades but i am really a happy man today. No benefit from Jawara nor
> Jammeh.  You are the one who benefitted from both systems.
> I wish my fellow Gambians struggling to better their lot the all the best.
> I hope and pray for a better Gambia where all talents are appreciated and
> allowed to blossom.  I wish my people salvation from the savagery of the Jammeh
> regime.  I pray that the Almighty deliver us from the hands of the brutes that
> hijack our liberties and freedom.
> God Bless the Gambia and Gambians.
> For Mr Gassama, i wish you yet another horrible and miserable day.
> Mboge
>
>
> >From: Pamodou Gassama
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: My Take, Suma Kadu.- please let us move on
> >Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 10:05:40 -0000
> >
> >Momodou Olly-Mboge,
> >
> >But for Mr. jaiteh's council, I would have followed you to the
> >gutter.
> >However as it will not benefit anybody, I will forge on.
> >
> >On this list I acknowledged that the security forces did not handle
> >the
> >student demonstrations April 2000 properly. I also condemned the
> >indemnity
> >bill that was subsequently passed to indemnify those found to be
> >culpable. I
> >also said that President Jammeh or Isatou Njie Saidy bore ultimate
> >responsibility as Commander in Chief/Acting Commander in chief of
> >our
> >security forces.
> >
> >Now honest Gambians, do you people remember Femi Jeng? Do you
> >remember how
> >he and dozens of others suffercated in a Banjul police cell in 1981?
> >Did we
> >ever get to know how those people actually died? Was there a
> >postmortem/autposy to determine how they died? Don't their loved
> >ones have a
> >right to know what actually happened to them? Were they not
> >Gambians? How
> >many people were illegally incarcerated after the abortive coupe of
> >1981?
> >How many people were humiliated just for being opposed to the then
> >PPP
> >regime? How many died as a result of being tortured at Mile 2 and
> >the depot
> >hangers? Need I go on?
> >
> >Let's stop the hypocrisy. As far as I am concerned, my contribution
> >on this
> >list is only motivated by my wish for a better Gambia. If that was
> >not my
> >conviction I will not be wasting some of my valuable time here. If
> >you
> >people want to tell me that all our concerns are absolute and not
> >relative,
> >then I need not try to engage some of you. in my honest opinion,
> >good
> >governance, human rights, rule of law and all the other cliches are
> >just
> >processes. None of them is an event by itself. If that is the case,
> >then
> >who, amongst us has a monopoly of how this ought to be handled? Why
> >do some
> >people assume that they and only they have an opinion of what is
> >best for
> >The Gambia? What a mockery of our socalled democratic credentials if
> >nobody
> >is allowed to express any desenting view on anything? I, for one,
> >ABSOLUTELY
> >REFUSE!, Period.
> >
> >There are many well meaning Gambians and nonGambians living abroad
> >who turn
> >to places like the L for information. We therefore owe it to our
> >people to
> >tell them the truth. How can anybody expect to tell me that it is
> >wrong to
> >build schools, hospitals, roads, fish processing plants, bridges,
> >procure
> >generators, expand the air and seaports and then turn around telling
> >me how
> >much you love the Gambia and its people and expect me to believe it?
> >Are
> >some of you for real? For God's sake hate Jammeh and the APRC, if
> >you must,
> >but don't hate to the extent that you can no longer differentiate
> >between
> >yahya as the president and Yahya as an individual, the APRC and the
> >Gambia
> >government. On th eabove questions and issues, I await answers from
> >any
> >honest Gambian, not the myopic bigots.
> >
> >Have a good day, Gassa.
> >
> >PS: Thanks Mr. Jaiteh for your council. Its much appreciated.
> >>
> >>From: momodou olly-mboge
> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >> >
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: Re: My Take, Suma Kadu.- please let us move on
> >>Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:57:14 -0500
> >>
> >
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