Suntou
If you are able to take Ousainou's name out of the conversation, Joe's position may then be quite appealing. Assuming you accept the foregoing postulation, it is easy to conclude that Joe harbours no personal ill-will against any individual currently leading an opposition party in The Gambia. He is a remarkable individual, and you cannot hope for a more neutral and equal opportunity Gambian for a partner in our struggle against tyranny.
I know for sure that Joe has no interest in promoting any party, and calling him a Halifa supporter is way off the mark. Joe relates to Halifa and Ousainou equally, and this is clear not only from the GRTS International phone interview, but also from closely reading what he says on the general level of frustration we are confronted with in dealing with opposition leaders who are unwilling to talk to each other.
As to resorting to diplomacy with a view to brokering a deal, I don't think it should matter in nudging the 'opposition leaders' to a conversation on the way forward against the Professor in 2011. A deal on a united front is more likely to surprise me than the failure of any effort to coalesce against His Excellency SHEPAD Yahya A J J Jammeh.
What do you think about Joe's position that we should not "babysit" the opposition leaders in efforts to have them engage each other on the way forward? Speaking for me, I think he is absolutely right and I am unwilling to do that myself. It is vital we develop the art of frank conversation with our would-be leaders, especially in light of our current experiences with Ousainou, and Halifa.
Overall, STGDP performed solidly in its GRTS International chat with MLSillah.
LJDarbo
--- On Tue, 20/4/10, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: STGDP on GRTS International
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Tuesday, 20 April, 2010, 10:56
Joe, my head is always up, I never put any interest in the work of STDG, hence I don't know who is who in there. When i came across the Pasamba forward, I took the opportunity to listen. To my chagrin, there i heard you talking. I know Joe speak as he sees it, however, when one is involve in diplomatically bringing together diverse political groups, one should remember his/her public comments.
This is why, in all sensitive dialogues, even the media is sideline until a breakthrough is achieve. The Northern Ireland political situation is a classic example.
From what I heard yesterday, you didn't say anything bordering on favouring your party (PDOIS) as against the rest. Where you guys are still missing the point is that, Halifa is not a politician who will accept the invitation of Ousainou. You guys are looking at him as if you don't know how Halifa operates.
We all know from Halifa's past write-ups , the STDG is the last group he gives any credence to. I can provide his own written proof to that effect.
The STDG's efforts are commendable, but it is my strong belief that, its members need to be aware of the ramifications of their public individual statements.
What Joe says in an open and frank manner, can be a serious hindrance through your involvement in apolitical movement.
I am not in any way trying to stop the good members here benefiting from your honest opinions. However, so far as partisan politics is concern, we need to have confidence in your neutrality, if not all you say will bounce of concrete walls. Joe's views equals Halifa's party line, and that will only come clear whenever you try your best hammering Ousainou and UDP.
I can handle your criticism of Ousainou, and so can Ousainou, this is why, I don't get bog down in bitter exchanges. But the STDG cannot be complaining of people turning on each whilst many of its members sympathise openly with Halifa.
I respect the views of Sika Jagne, sorry sister for spelling your name wrongly. She said some good stuffs, and I for one can trust her brokeage. Banka too express sound opinions, however he too seems to have place the burden of the work on UDP. We accept the reasoning, but he fail also to know that, Halifa is not a politician who thinks others should invite him for dialogue. The Agenda 2011 is a proof of that. And Banka by the way, the Agenda 2011 is only being sold to guys in the cyberspace, not to Gambians on the ground. And that Agenda is Halifa certificate, telling us all that, only through bargaining with it will he agree to the selection of a flagbearer. A process that will take only those who agree with the content of the document, which will in short be PDOIS members.
The rest of the UDP, NRP, and others are left out.
The final analysis meaning, Halifa will be voted in as the NADD flagbrearer, resulting in what happen the last time. From the get go, all the party leaders should have trust and confidence in STDG.
STDG should be bold as to say, we propose a party led alliance, with the bigger party leading the coalition.
Then the parties on that basis can sit down and agree on how the modalities will work.
Any other option of saying, the party leaders should talk directly, it will not work that way according to my observation. Trust and confidence in each other is the problem. All the opposition leaders must solemnly agree to keep the negotiation proceeding secret. A chosen person should be selected to write down all sides of the story. And then, where they agree or disagree, the public can then be informed.
If individuals wish to talk to the press whilst talks are ongoing, making themselves look stronger, there will never be any agreement.
STDG as i said is in a pivotal position to rekindle a delicate deadlock. None of our leaders will lie down for the other. Trust and confidence is the key.
SUntou
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Suntou, where have you buried your head all this while? ?There are a thousand ways you could have known my association with the STGDP. ?All online, with the exception of Suntou, knew that while I'm a member of the STGDP, I have my independent voice that does not speak for STGDP but for Joe. ?STGDP will call it like it is and we are as much Gambian as any other and will continue to be in the forefront in the fight to liberate our country. ?We have been in operation for almost a decade and you are here howling about division in a movement. ?What you heard on the program from Joe is what you will read from Joe, and it is what you will hear when you meet Joe in person. So get used to it. ?Hopefully, my voice will be much clearer without the technical difficulties during the recording. ?My shout-out to Mbye Sarr, ML Sillah, and the rest of the Gambia Journal staff for a job well done and giving us the opportunity to dialogue with our fellow Gambians. ?This is
going to be one of many conversations we will have with our people and friends of the Gambia in the months ahead. ?Suntou, stay tuned.
Joe?
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:44:09 +0100
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: STGDP on GRTS International
To: [log in to unmask]
A good insight into STDG. I never knew Joe Sambou is a founding member. No wonder all his daggers are aimed at Ousainou. When�people talk, things come clear. STDG should try to be as neutral as neutral can be. Folks like Joe will only bring division in that movement. His past views are such that, UDP will not trust him as a broker.
There are others in the movement who are unknown to some of us. The lady speaker for instance. Overall, the Gambiajournal should be commended for connecting diverse views of Gambians. ML Sillah handled the program brillaintly.
Suntou
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Pasamba Jow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
STGDP's interview with M. L Sillah on GRTS International
http://www.thegambiajournal.com/sambanner/spacialplayer2.php?sid=327
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