Darbo
I guess my question was when we became a Republic….should a citizen of ours carry an officially recognized nobility title?
Nobility is in direct conflict or a contraction to the whole essence of a republic. It appears Sir Farimang doesn’t favor Gambia becoming a republic for that purpose. Jawara on the other hand favoring Gambia going republic could probably be explain with him knowing he will become president rather than under a distant monarch yet he still like the title.
Earned titles such as doctor are a different matter. Someone named doctor, Alhagie, etc. or called so doesn’t make such person an actual doctor or Alhagie. I know when I was young we do refer to 'book smart colleagues' as doctor or someone named after a doctor - some of those colleagues are still called doctor at the expense of their real name.
I’m not overly concern sheikh-hood as I was over nobility titles. Nonetheless my understanding is that the Supreme Islamic Council confer Yahya his sheikh title. If that is true, what’s their social, religious and/or legal authority to confer such a title? What does that title mean? How does it bore with equal sovereigns in a republic? Sheikh after all may not necessarily elevate someone into higher social class as nobility does in Queen’s land.
As a republic we may not stop anyone from receiving any title from external sources……but I think it goes with reason we shouldn’t officially recognize those that’s origin is stratification of people into classes.
Our laws makers will never find need to legislate on such matters. Maybe it wasn’t an issue for them and the rest of our people. Maybe because it directly concern Sir Dawda. Maybe a serious limitation to the understanding of the concept of a republic.
How should the New Gambia address this mater?
Regards
Burama
On Sep 14, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> You may be thinking of "nobility" in the context of section 9(8) of the US Constitution.
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> Knighthood as in the title "Sir" is a personal honour conferred on a individual by a British monarch. In the case of Sir Dawda, and Sir Farimang, that monarch was Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Unsure how the Scottish independence referendum affects that name in five days!
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> As an honorary title, it confers no "nobility" on either Sir Dawda, or Sir Farimang. In 1966 when Sir Dawda got the honour, Gambia was an 'independent' country but ultimate responsibility for her affairs rested in the Queen as Head of State. In light of the state of affairs then extant, the 1965 Constitution could not have prohibited royal titles. Considering the current title mania in the country, it is understandable why the 1997 Constitution is silent on the question. It appears not to be an issue as far as Gambian public life. The US prohibition for federal officials must be regarded as a unique product of that country's history.
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> I must emphasise that as far as Sir Dawda, and Sir Farimang, knighthood does not connote nobility. They were honoured by the Monarch they both served in that historical era, Sir Dawda as Prime Minister, and Sir Farimang as Governor General. According to Sir Dawda in Kairaba, Sir Farimang enjoyed his status so much he opposed republican status for The Gambia. Nevertheless, the titles were personal to them and I'm sure highly cherished by both.
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> As to "Sheikh-hood", that was not bestowed on the President by either a foreign monarch or religious leader. It may be needless but certainly not repugnant of any law of The Gambia. Like "Professor", "Doctor", and "Babil Mansa", it is just a part of the President's name. If someone says call me "prince", why should we disagree. I refer to the President in his full official name because that's the way he preferred to be addressed, and I am happy to accord him that personal dignity he so obviously craves. A high school classmate of mine insists on being called "Dr" even though his claim to the title is only honorary. No doctoral qualification whatsoever!
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> Unlike the US at the federal level, I am not aware of any law proscribing a noble title in the ordinary run of events. Our current Constitution merely states that The Gambia is a sovereign secular Republic. We must be confronted with far more than a "Sheikh-hood" as a mere title before any Gambian law is negatively triggered.
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> On Saturday, 13 September 2014, 1:38, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Gambia officially became a Republic April 24, 1970!
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> Jawara was knighted by queen of UK a title of nobility.
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> What should have legally happen to that title upon attainment of Republic? I guess the fundamental question here is whether Jawara is of high class to the rest of Gambia? Wait a minute - Sir Farimang Singhateh (Queen’s Governor) is another.
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> Legal minds please weigh in! Our laws probably never address this matter - but serious conflict……
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> Should Yahya be conferred a Sheikh-hood and be officially reference with such is a supposed republic
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