Thanks Ylva
I will consider these options. I did not know about.-first I must verify the validity. Thanks again
Habib

Ylva Hernlund wrote:

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 17:17:13 -0700
> From: Harriet M. Phinney <[log in to unmask]>
> Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
> To: Anthropology Graduate Students <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Nader/vote swapping
>
> > Hey there,
> >     For all of you who want to support Nader but are horrified at the idea
> > of Bush being elected president (far more than Gore), here is a possible
> > solution. Check out the article below and the web site - it will hook you
> up
> > with voters in states where Gore has no chance. They will vote Nader for
> you
> > (helping make sure he gets the 5 percent of the popular vote needed to
> > qualify the 2004 Green Party presidential candidate for federal funding)
> and
> > you vote for Gore here in Washington State - so it isn't lost to Bush.
> Then
> > next time hopefully we can do better than Bush and Gore....
> >     .........
> > - http://slate.msn.com/Concept/00-10-24/Concept.asp
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > > high concept
> > > > > Nader's Traders
> > > > > How to save Al Gore's bacon by swapping votes on the Internet.
> > > > > By Jamin Raskin
> > > > > Tuesday, Oct. 24, 2000, at 4:00 p.m. PT
> > > > >
> > > > >  According to the Washington Post and the Al Gore campaign, the
> > > > presidential race is now so close that a strong showing by Ralph Nader
> > in
> > > 10
> > > > swing states could help give George W. Bush the 270 Electoral College
> > > votes
> > > > he needs to win. This leaves hundreds of thousands of progressive
> Nader
> > > > supporters in swing states such as Maine, Michigan, Oregon,
> Washington,
> > > and
> > > > New Mexico with a dilemma: Should they vote their hearts for Ralph and
> > > make
> > > > sure he gets the 5 percent of the popular vote needed to qualify the
> > 2004
> > > > Green Party presidential candidate for federal funding? Or should they
> > > vote
> > > > strategically for Al to stop George?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Meanwhile, hundreds of thousands of frustrated Gore voters trapped
> in
> > > the
> > > > Republican-controlled states of Texas, Louisiana, Virginia, Utah, and
> > > Alaska
> > > > face a quandary of their own. Bush holds such a commanding lead in
> these
> > > > places that even if Gore supporters cast their ballots for their man,
> he
> > > > won't win any of those states. These are truly wasted votes.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > But wait! There is a way for Gore voters trapped in Republican
> states
> > to
> > > > liberate Nader supporters in the tossup states to vote for Gore
> without
> > > > actually abandoning their support for Nader and a strong Green Party
> in
> > > the
> > > > future. The key is a variation on a voting device used in the Senate
> > > called
> > > > "pairing," whereby senators on opposite sides of issues match up their
> > > votes
> > > > if they are going to be away from Washington. (This arrangement is so
> > > formal
> > > > that when the Congressional Record reports the ayes and nays on a
> vote,
> > it
> > > > reflects the pairs by name.)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The Gore/Nader vote-swapping plan could use a Web site to pair
> > > individual
> > > > Gore Democrats in Republican states with individual Nader supporters
> in
> > > > swing states. Democrats from Texas and other states in the definite
> Bush
> > > > column could register at the site by name under a brief text stating
> > that,
> > > > as Gore supporters in a Republican state, they have concluded that
> their
> > > > best hope for contributing to a Gore victory is to vote for Nader in
> the
> > > > explicit hope that Nader voters in swing states will correspondingly
> > cast
> > > > their ballots for Gore. Nader supporters in the swing states could add
> > > their
> > > > names to a similar list under a brief text stating that, as Nader
> > > supporters
> > > > in a tossup state, they have decided to vote for Gore but do so in the
> > > > explicit hope that Gore voters in Republican states will
> correspondingly
> > > > cast their ballots for Nader. Using sorting software, the Web site
> could
> > > > then match individual Gore voters to individual Nader voters. If just
> > > > 100,000 Gore supporters and 100,000 Nader supporters in the key states
> > > > registered and kept their words, both a Gore victory and federal
> funding
> > > for
> > > > the Greens could be accomplished.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This plan is not for everyone. Some people regard voting as
> primarily
> > > > moral and expressive-not political and strategic-behavior, and they
> will
> > > > recoil at the thought of ever pulling the lever for someone who is not
> > > their
> > > > first-choice candidate. I cannot convince them. This is a plan for
> > people
> > > > who regard voting as essentially strategic behavior that requires us
> to
> > > > focus on real-world political outcomes and meanings. But if it is
> > immoral
> > > to
> > > > vote strategically, the campaigns should stop trying to convince
> > > > people-Nader voters, most prominently-to change their votes.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Others might suggest that the plan won't work because it is based on
> > the
> > > > honor system, and all citizens will have an incentive to break their
> own
> > > > promises. I do not share this rather grim evaluation of human nature.
> At
> > > any
> > > > rate, I would suppose that the tendency and proclivity to lie are
> > constant
> > > > features proportionately distributed across members of different
> > political
> > > > parties. Besides, the logic of vote-swapping is so appealing that it
> > might
> > > > encourage some Gore and Nader voters to spontaneously cast their
> ballots
> > > for
> > > > the other guy without registering at the Web site.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Finally, it might be argued that there is something irresponsible
> > about
> > > > this kind of massive vote-trading. The point is off-base. It is the
> > > highest
> > > > form of democratic politics to consult your fellow citizens about
> > > electoral
> > > > choices. We are obviously not talking about any kind of binding,
> > > enforceable
> > > > contract here. Although state laws prohibit the selling of votes, this
> > > would
> > > > surely not count as vote-selling. Since no one is bound by their
> > > statements,
> > > > it would not even amount to vote-trading, which is itself a perfectly
> > > > permissible and ordinary activity. Indeed, vote-trading is the essence
> > of
> > > > legislative logrolling in Washington: You vote yes on my highway bill,
> > and
> > > I
> > > > will vote yes on your tax bill. We compromise to arrive at mutually
> > > workable
> > > > solutions.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The choices we are forced to make in presidential elections reflect
> > the
> > > > peculiarities of the Electoral College system. In this election, the
> > > > indecision experienced by Nader Democrats and Greens in tossup states
> is
> > > > only matched by the impotent frustration of Gore Democrats in states
> > where
> > > > the Gore campaign has essentially pulled up stakes and surrendered to
> > > Bush.
> > > > I say they should join forces through the Internet and become
> professors
> > > of
> > > > the Electoral College rather than dropouts from it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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