Sidibeh, you make me laugh. I did NOT know you were this terrified of me.
Get a grip, boy. I will NOT do anything to you; BUT make you accountable for
your utterances on G_L. Reread my posting to you yesterday that is making
you so worked up. It only attacked what you wrote on G_L. I do NOT care who
you are or where you are from. Makes no difference to me. I do NOT know you
and NEVER heard of you before I came to G_L. Since you decided to run with
your tail in between your legs this time, I will let you go. Keep having
nightmares that you are dealing with a knight in shining armor (steel mask).
I CANNOT do anything about that your predicament. But as I told you, you
start obsessing about PPP and lying about Gambian history, I will be on your
back like an ‘overbearing tortoise’ (whatever that means). I wonder what
makes you think that whining about me will free you from me and give you
license to tell lies on G_L.
You are so funny. Frankly, I NEVER thought I was this scary to remind you
about a ‘vulgar cartoon on MTV’ with all the gory details you gave us. You
should stop watching those kids’ shows and get your act together. I will
ignore your other comments for now and deal with you again when you sober
up.
KB
>From: Momodou S Sidibeh <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: MOJA CASE FILE (1)
>Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:54:05 +0100
>
>Kebba "Daafa" Dampha!!
>
>In a vulgar cartoon on MTV, Celebrity Deathmatch, Marilyn Manson carries a
>whizzing chainsaw and slices off Madonna's neck. Your behaviour on this
>list reminds me of that sort of customized bloodletting!! Once again, Kukoi
>and his men were a horrendous nigthmare! and MOJA had written in detail
>about that elsewhere, many times!!! So, you have a Senegalese friend who's
>gone mad because of what happened to him in Gambia? That is just too
>unfortunate.
>It also happened that when the lifeless body of one of our best musiscians,
>Pa Njai 'Base' of the IfangBondi was driven into the depot, I was there.
>Half his skull had been blown away by a Senegalese soldier! A small group
>of armed Gambian field force mad at the sight of Pa Njai's dripping brains,
>rushed out three Senegalese soldiers they had captured in battle, lined
>them against a wall and cocked their weapons for a summary execution, right
>on the spot! Kukoi immediately intervened and saved their lives.
>
>Instead of seriously pondering over what went wrong with your nonsensical
>predictions about "Jammeh is Finished", I see that you are still
>ridiculously hanging on to your UDP/PPP warlordism. No, you cannot get me
>into debating with you this cheaply. If that is what you want, you will
>have to prove you are not a severe coward, tirelessly billowing so much
>gushing prattle on Gambia-L.
>
>You will have to go through a Bessemer Process ( a steel bath - Swedes
>call it), get laundered and perfumed, and shed that heavy and overbearing
>tortoise shell of yours. Earlier on we called this list a Bantaba; and no
>one goes to the Bantaba wearing a heavy steel mask My name is Momodou
>Sidibeh and I am from Kartong. Wha's yours and where are you from? Tell me,
>and we can then talk the talk! Otherwise, as far as you are concerned, I'm
>gone!
>
>Momodou S Sidibeh,
>Stockholm/Kartong.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dampha Kebba" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 8:35 PM
>Subject: Re: MOJA CASE FILE (1)
>
>
> > Karamba, thanks for your astute observations and pointing out the sloppy
>job
> > Sidibeh did in trying to rewrite Gambian history; yet he is the first
>person
> > to accuse people of doing just that. I mean, how can anybody profess to
>be
> > giving an unbiased account about Gambian history surrounding the events
>of
> > the 1981 and not point out the despicable and irresponsible behavior of
> > criminals like Kukoi Samba Sanyang that sought to ILLEGALLY overthrow a
> > democratically elected government? Should Sidibeh be taken seriously? Do
>I
> > detect someone who is so obsessed with PPP that his view about Gambian
> > history is clouded?
> >
> > It is good that some put Sidibeh's thesis in perspective. No matter what
> > reservations people had against the Jawara regime of 1981, Gambia was an
> > independent nation with laws. Those laws said that if someone wanted to
> > overthrow the government, they had to do so through the ballot box. Does
> > anyone have the right to think that because most Gambians cannot read or
> > write English, real Democracy cannot thrive in the country and therefore
>it
> > is justifiable for a bunch of thugs to overthrow the government through
>the
> > use of force? This argument is ludicrous. Who told Sidibeh that
>Democracy
> > can only be implemented through the medium of English? It is this type
>of
> > condescension I cannot stand from these people that think they know
>better
> > than the Gambian folks and they need to teach and empower people. People
>do
> > NOT have to go to school to know who to vote for. By the same token,
> > education in English does NOT guarantee that people are going to make
>sound
> > decisions at polling booths. People like Sidibeh's comrade (Sarjo
>Jallow)
> > have all the education Gambia can offer. They still vote for child
>murderers
> > and thieves to stay in office. How did Jallow's 'education' help him to
>fare
> > better than say the poor farmer in URD that LIVES the plight of farmers
>in
> > the country and decided to vote for the Opposition? What 'education'
>does
> > for the vermin back home, is to give them jargon to rationalize murder
>and
> > mayhem. Their 'education' help them to bamboozle gullible Gambians to
>think
> > that it is better to stand child murderers than vote Darboe in because
> > Darboe 'might' bring back the PPP folks.
> >
> > Darn right we will NOT sit idle and allow Sidibeh to portray the bandits
> > that partook in the 1981 rebellion as some patriots 'saving' our country
> > from foreign invaders. Talk about rewriting history. The man would
>rather
> > give space to some ridiculous rumor about Ebou Taal than address the
>roles
> > of criminals like Kukoi Sanneh and Pap Cheyassin Secka and Simon Talibo
> > Sanneh. What is wrong with this man? Did Sidibeh care about the numerous
> > Senegalese citizens that lost their lives trying to save Gambian lives?
> > NOTHING about that in his postings. To this day I have a Senegalese
>friend
> > that is mentally ill from the trauma these poor soldiers faced fighting
>an
> > indiscipline bunch of bandits that did NOT respect the rules of the
> > battle-field. This is simply sick. What responsible revolutionary would
>free
> > (criminals) prisoners and give them arms and ammunition and unleash them
> > unto innocent citizens? Kukoi and his gang of bandits were committing a
> > crime (trying to illegally overthrow the government of the day). The
>then
> > president exercised his constitutionally mandated duty to invite a
>friendly
> > country (since we did not have an army then) to stop the crime. Now
>Sidibeh
> > wants history to record that the criminals that brought anarchy to the
> > country are patriots fighting foreign invaders? And when you asked him
>about
> > his gaps the man arrogantly told you that the matter was dealt with in
>some
> > publication in 1994. A lot of the things he said in his piece are NOT
>news.
> > They have been dealt with before. Yet he felt the need to talk about
>them
> > now. I guess it is OK when the matter is unfavorable to PPP. But when it
> > comes to pointing out the crimes that were committed against PPP,
>Sidibeh
> > will conveniently ignore those.
> >
> > Finally Karamba, I am glad that you made it abundantly clear (at least
>to
> > me) that despite that you are a staunch UDP supporter and you supported
>the
> > Alliance, you by no means condone some of the bad things that PPP did in
>the
> > past and you were at no time advocating that PPP vices should return if
> > Darboe were to be elected by the Gambian electorate. This is the point
>we
> > tried to drum into the heads of people like Sidibeh, but they simply
>would
> > NOT get it. We are NOT PPP apologists. Having said that, we will NOT sit
>by
> > and allow people to lie about PPP and in effect portray Yaya as a
>'savior'.
> > By the same token, we will vehemently protest if people dubiously try to
> > portray Darboe as a stooge. Thanks again for your contributions. God
>help us
> > from the 'educated Gambian'.
> > KB
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: [log in to unmask]
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: MOJA CASE FILE (1)
> > >Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 19:50:53 EST
> > >
> > >Mr Sidibeh,
> > > Thank you very much for a very well written
> > >retrospective. I
> > >am especially impressed with your sequencing of events and your
>perspective
> > >of an organization you seem to demonstrably understand and care about.
> > >While
> > >ideologically I am on the opposite side of the spectrum relative to
>Moja ,
> > >I
> > >believe your absence from the body politik from the time of your
>inception
> > >has diminished our overall democratic experience.Gambia like any
>society
> > >looking to positively forge ahead has to have it's full compliment of
>ideas
> > >and participants actively involved in the crucial business of improving
>our
> > >society and the lives it's people. I was also struck by the very candid
> > >reasons you advance for the current near comatose state of Moja. You
> > >justifiably apportioned significant blame on the Jawara regimes
> > >heavy-handedness and also lethargic leadership from within MOJA. In a
> > >strange
> > >way, both of these reasons point to what I call a destructive
>propensity
> > >for
> > >self preservation deeply embedded in the Gambian psyche. Sending field
> > >forces
> > >to arrest seemingly innocent people espousing new and different ideas
>was
> > >the
> > >flawed response of a regime that was much more interested in preserving
> > >itself than fairly contesting ideas. Similarly the expedient judgment
>of
> > >some
> > >of your colleagues to jump into Yahya Jammeh's bandwagon under the
>spurious
> > >pretext that it was a credible revolution point to the same selfish
>streak
> > >lurking in the hearts of many a Gambian.There is simply nothing some
>people
> > >would not do to meet selfish ends. In the process good people and good
> > >ideas
> > >become casualties.
> > > I did find two phrases troubling. You said MOJA did not support
>the
> > >Kukoi
> > >coup but it's members went ahead and armed themselvesf to defend the
> > >country
> > >from invading Senegalese soldiers sustaining casualties in the process.
>I
> > >can
> > >understand on grounds of nationalism for Moja to characterise the
> > >Senegalese
> > >as invaders and thus the need to attempt a defense. What troubles me is
>the
> > >fact that you attribute none of the violence that was precitipated
>by
> > >looting and the general breakdown of law and order to Kukoi and the
> > >coupists.
> > >I do not think Kukoi would strike you as being a responsible
>revolutionary
> > >whose rhetoric or methods was a prelude to anything but anarchy.
>Similarly
> > >you stated that Moja opposed the Jammeh coup in principle but decided
>to
> > >offer critical support.Since you did not elaborate on what that means
>,
> > >I'd
> > >like to ask for a clarification.Did you mean you supported the coup
>just as
> > >a
> > >tansitionary episode? Do you still support the APRC regime?
> > > I look forward to your response
> > >Thanks
> > >Karamba
> > >
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