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Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 28 May 2014 21:39:12 -0700
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Burama,

We had several sessions and I didn't realize you needed a 1:1. All the same
let's target weekend of June 21st or 22nd. I have other commitments out of
town for the next two weekends with family. Let me know if the 21st or 22nd
work for you 12pm Pacific 3:00pm Eastern would work fine for me.

I look forward to it.

Thanks

Demba


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]>wrote:

> Demba
>
> Make the calling. I'll surely present my views on any matter Gambia. In
> fact I supposed there is nothing unknown to yourself.
>
> The challenges and difficulties are very rooted in our past. That past is
> PPP. PPP was not only a political party but also both a socio-culture and
> socio-economics. The understanding is very relevant not for name calling
> but making tomorrow better. Denials and minimization is an err.
>
> We need to overhaul the structure along side social reorientation.
> Tinkering and massaging the edges will produce continuation with another
> person at the helm.
>
> I have asked you to give me chance to present my case to the nation
> without much panel interruptions. Still waiting for your invite.
>
> I'll break the convolution into bite side pieces and suggest the logical,
> practical and political entry point. I will show how it should and can be
> made a nation fight. Tell the organizational development needs and identify
> roles of every individual along the way. Surely a time consuming and
> expensive preposition but there is no shortcut.
>
> I also want us to reduce our focus on Yahya as a person and to Gambia (as
> ours). What we will do and if done right will make Yahya and/or any person
> in Banjul at the time inconsequential. The consequential will be the people.
>
> We have a fight. It's a difficult fight because we have to fight
> ourselves. It's culture! It's economics! It's religion! It's trade!
> Actually is the mindset of the average Gambia.
>
> What you and me supposedly want will not come and sustain until majority
> of our compatriots have a requisite capacity.
>
> Regards
>
> Burama
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 28, 2014, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Guys,
>>
>> I still think you can go ahead and discuss this topic... We should move
>> it from the name calling and labeling the former government dictatorship to
>> discussing how some of the policies that Burama think made Jawara
>> "dictator" can be enhance and changed in a new Gambia? How difficult was it
>> or is it to change those policies.. How can we continue to challenge the
>> status quo and mobilize our people and give them hope that change can come
>> to Gambia... The discussion can be swayed to a more substantive issues..
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Demba
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>>
>> Krubally
>>
>> You said I broke the gentlemen agreement by discussing the topic with
>> another host. I apologized on the grounds that I didn't thought I was in a
>> binding agreement that I couldn't talk elsewhere. Regardless I said sorry.
>> Am sincere saying sorry!
>>
>> I don't think this topic is exhaustive. This is not about faulting PPP
>> and/or humiliating those who might be professionally or personally close to
>> Jawara/PPP. This is about understanding our past in order to perfect the
>> future. Denial and/or minimizing is a mistake. Comparison to Yahya is not
>> helpful because both are not the yardstick.
>>
>> I was astonished how some came dismissive as irrelevant. It still beg the
>> larger question for me what are we fighting for. I have pursued this
>> question at any opportunity and it appears we are disinterested and/or with
>> a hidden  agenda. Both are not helpful.
>>
>> To be honest my suspicion is some want us fight for return of Jawara's
>> Gambia, hate of Yahya or want of our person choice to go to the helm. No of
>> these are legitimate cause for me.
>>
>>  In addition I believed this is partly why we couldn't so far make
>> appreciable gains on Yahya.
>>
>> Anyway am ready to discuss any topic on Gambia. I'll do so by presenting
>> facts where they are available and also opine my views.
>>
>> Again I apologize for breaking away from your understanding of our
>> agreement. I didn't meant to, I only have a different understanding.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>  Burama
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 28, 2014, M B K <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> King Bamba and Burama,  I think we have beaten this topic to death and
>> Burama have already granted an interview to another radio station about
>> this matter.  It has also been discussed heavily on social media.
>> I suggest we look for another good topic to discuss.
>> I doubt if there are any more relevant points to discuss about this
>> topic.
>> Moving forward, Burama and I have agreed to not grant interviews on
>> topics we agreed to debate with another host.  Hope you understand.
>>
>> MB Krubally
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 28, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Bamba
>>
>> I would suggest you define the topic. Am participating to support my
>> assertion that Jawara's was a dictator.
>>
>> We ought to establish what's that word. Then discuss what Jawara did or
>> did not.
>>
>> What others opine is not definition. What others believe is no
>> definition. What the popular/not populate sentiment are no definition. This
>> is a fact base subject matter - meaning of dictator vs Jawara's rule.
>>
>> I am suggesting these because people have used opinions, comparisons,
>> etc. if we go down that road it will be a wild goose chase.
>>
>> What does it mean - dictator
>> What Jawara did or not
>>
>> Am open to discuss anything Gambia but let that be a known case.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Burama
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 28, 2014, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Bamba
>>
>> Whenever you're ready simply give a call
>>
>> Burama
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 28, 2014, Bamba sering Manka Mass <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>  MBK
>> I have just mailed Mr. B Jammeh. I am ready to host the debate. Would
>> tomorrow 19.00pm UK time be suitable let me know. Alternatively, choose
>> your own dates and times then we can discuss which suits both of us.
>> Thanks
>> Bamba Sering Mass
>> Khadimu Rasul.x
>>
>> --- Original Message ---
>>
>> From: "M B K" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: 25 May 2014 19:04
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Shou
>>
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