Saihou

Thanks for your wise words. However, I felt Mathew's drunkenness with
Mandingos cannot be left alone. This is a dangerous strategy that should be
tackled. If he name Burama, Dodou or Junkun as tribalist, then it is up to
those people to respond to him. But when he sticks his poisonous knife in
the heart of every single Mandingo, we will take him on.

Why is the Gambiaecho a melting pot of anti-Mandingo vibes? Why?

Did you ever read Mathew saying anything about Fulas? And why is that? Are
Fulas so pure they are above the crimes he is labelling against Mandingoes
and Banjul Wollofs.

How many up country Wollofs are tribalist, How many Sahahulehs are tribalist
and etc? If he thinks he is good enough to attack us, let him do the same
for every single tribe of the Gambia.

We show in Rwanda how small talks like Mathew’s led to full scale barbaric
wars.

If he continues attacking Mandingos, God-willing I shall respond to him.
This is the same nonsense some former army officers are doing. Actions of
Wollof officers are criticise as bad, complicit etc, the same action by a
Mandingo officer, pinn, there tribalist watch eyes are wide open. This is
utter nonsense.

Let Mathew criticise Ousainou morning, evening and night, let him criticise
the UDP, we have no problem with that. Really, his criticisms are welcome,
however should he try to cross the boundary and bring in his reverse
psychology problems, we will respond to him. Notwithstanding his
generalisations, I consider him a good advocate of democracy, however, if he
thinks a Fula should be the next president, he should sell that to Gambians
in a positive light.

I deal with Mathew privately, however, this is a public live subject, our
difference of opinion is on matters of principles only.

Suntou


On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Saihou Mballow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Dear  Mathew, Haruna and Suntou,
>                                                          it is really sad
> to see three gentlemen of your caliber  expected to bring Gambians together
> regardless of tribe to be involve in such a divisive exchange. Gambians have
> always live together in harmony regardless of religion and tribe therefore
> our task today is to work harder to unite Gambians but not otherwise.  We
> all know the situation back home is not created by any singe tribe but by
> few individuals so it is the responsibility of every good Gambian like you
> to promote peace and positive behaviors and discourage bad ones so that one
> day we would see each other our heads up when this regime is gone.
>
> I am not here to judge who is wrong or right but appealing to you to put
> aside this sensitive exchange because at the end of the day it is going to
> be a minus on our side.
>
> Today, Ousainou Darboe, Halifa Sallah, Yaya Jallow, OJ Jallow and Hamat Bah
> should not be use for a tribal divide and my resignation has no basis in
> this exchange.Let's promote love and harmony among ourselves.
>
> I have spoken to both Mathew and Haruna when a friend drew my attention to
> this exchange and i believe it is over. I will speak to Suntou in the
> morning.
>
> Saihou
>
>
>
>
>  On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>>  [In a message dated 5/5/2010 8:27:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> [log in to unmask] writes: Haruna…If you look closer, the one who
>> hollers tribalist is the vrai tribalist. Just a loser, but a tribalist
>> nonetheless
>> Suntou/Haruna, I kinda expected this from the both of you, so I am not
>> disappointed.] Mathew Jallow.
>>
>> Hi Mathew. OK. Soy ou expected my reaction to your convoluted logic.
>> Oioned K.
>>
>> [The experience here is such that any criticism of UDP and Ousainou
>> Darboe, can expect a duality of reaction from the both of you.] Mathew
>> Jallow.
>>
>> I suppose in here you mean the Gambiaecho or your neck of the woods
>> somewhere. Why should a duality of reaction from Haruna and Suntou stop you
>> from criticising UDP and Ousainou Mathew??? I think you're confusing
>> crioticism with lies, slander, and libel don't you?
>>
>> [As usual, you both seem to feed of each other, seeking validation for
>> your views from each other, and in the process, feeding the perception many
>> have of you as fomenters of tribal insensitivity.] Mathew Jallow.
>>
>> Why don't you try to speak for your friggin self. With your acumen, I'm
>> not sure another Gambian would desire you speak for them. In general, one
>> can only speak for him/herself and his/her family members of minor age.
>>
>> [You do not see how it appears when you give to yourself the license to
>> defend or even as it seems, act as the spokesmen for the UDP.] Mathew
>> Jallow.
>>
>> 1. I am not a spokesman for UDP or Ousainou. That will be fraudulent
>> agency. My family did not teach me how to do that. I cannot help those to
>> whom it APPEARS that I am a spokesman for either Ousainou or UDP. And I
>> couldn't care less what the criminal conjures up in his barren mind.
>>
>> [The UDP is a Gambian political party,] Mathew Jallow.
>>
>> Noooooooooo
>>
>> [as such, I for one, will seek no one’s consent to write and criticize it
>> in any way I choose. I could care less what anyone says, thinks or does.]
>> Mathew Jallow.
>>
>> I am glad Mathew that you appreciate your fundamental rights of free
>> expression and association for industry and religion. For you to feign
>> Haruna is interested in your considerations, quoi que sa soit, is the
>> dumbest idea I've ever heard.
>>
>> [Your agitated barking and snarling, rather than preempt my criticisms of
>> both the UDP and Ousainou, will instead exacerbate them, might I say.]
>> Mathew Jallow.
>>
>> You would agree therefore that I have no intent in guiding your speech.
>> You will however be responsible for your lies, innuendo, slander, and libel.
>> And you can count on Haruna to strip search you.
>>
>> [The advice I wrote to UDP has so incensed you that you took a
>> psychoanalytical adventure to find motives in what I wrote.] Mathew Jallow.
>>
>> I think when you wrote the crap, you took a psychoanalytical adventure
>> (otherwise known as witch-hunting). So why would you curtail the privileges
>> of your fellow citizens, no matter the number, to go witch-hunting???????
>> The vraie witch????????????
>>
>> [The way I see it, you both either have no clue or a proper understanding
>> of what Gambia was like during the Jawara years, particularly as it related
>> to the way our tribes coexisted to each other, specifically at the realm of
>> governance and politics, or perhaps you just want to sweep that ugly period
>> under rug.] Mathew Jallow.
>>
>> Mathew, I am not the spokesperson of Jawara's government or of Jawara
>> himself. Besides, if you dig in that government, you may find a family
>> member coexisting with another of another tribe. A government cannot
>> regulate tribalism and all tribes are equally prone to tribalism. I'm sure
>> you don't understand the various tribes of the people who served the Jawara
>> government you idiot. What does this have to do with calling someone
>> tribalist simply because you overheard them saying the Mandingo should
>> govern Gambia???? I suppose you haven't heard the many Serers, Fulas,
>> Sarahules, Wollofs, Akus, Jolas, Njagos, Toucouleurs, Laobes, and Balantas
>> say their tribe should govern Gambia. What an idiot.
>>
>> [Well, I will not.] Mathew Jallow.
>>
>> You will not what? Oh you mean you will not sweep the Jawara era under the
>> rug. Well knock yourself out. I think Jawara wrote a book about his era.
>> That doesn't look to me like someone wanting to sweep his era under the rug.
>> Remmember though, when you come across your tribesmen engaged in tribalism,
>> remmember not to ignore that. We will begin to realize who the vrai
>> tribalists are.
>>
>> [I like many others, was a victim and a causality of that era, and as
>> such, it was my reality then, and a part of my life story now.] Mathew
>> Jallow.
>>
>> Mathew, you have shared with us that you had been a casualty on many
>> occasions which had nothing to do with the Jawara government. I
>> understand you had a lot of personal problems. But why would you hold
>> Gambians to ransom for those personal problems. We are not interested in
>> solving your personal problems for you. Revolutionary or no Revolutionary. I
>> mean what kind of a man uses his personal injuries to cast gratuitous
>> aspersions on his fellow citizen???????????????????????????????????
>>
>> [I will write about issues of tribalism, especially how the Mandinkas and
>> Banjul Wollofs pillaged and looted billions of dollars to bankrupt two
>> foreign funded development banks and nearly ten revenue generating
>> government agencies.] Mathew Jallow.
>>
>> It seems to me Mathew that looting public funds is a crime of theft. Not
>> one of tribalism. How does the Banjul Wollofs and Mandingos stealing make
>> them tribalist? Are you aware of any Fula thieves Mathew????
>> And once you share with us the Mandingo, Wollof, Fula, Jola, Aku, Serer,
>> Njago, Toucouleur, Sarahule, Balanta, and other thieves, let us know how
>> that makes them tribalist??? And what does that have to do with UDP
>> or Ousainou?????????????????????????????????????????????/
>>
>> [I will stop writing about tribal issues only when The Gambia becomes like
>> Senegal.] Mathew Jallow.
>>
>> I know you're not stoopid Mathew but I wouldn't want Gambia to become like
>> Senegal. Scout's honour. Why would you stop writing about tribalism when
>> Gambia becomes like Senegal?? I'm just curious.
>>
>> [Then there will be no audience for my tribal awakening cause, but as of
>> now, one only has to look at the brutal exchanges that both of you
>> frequently engage in with some of Halifa Sallah’s talibans to see how much
>> progress we have made in this issue.] Mathew Jallow.
>>
>> I'm glad you're keeping up with us Mathew. And the exchanges with
>> PDOISards is not generally about tribalism. Just like you personal
>> misfortunes and losses tend to take tribalism's connotation. Even if
>> tribalism has nothing to do with your losses and misfortunes.
>>
>> [Even a fool can read the nasty tribal bend embodied in your exchanges.]
>> Mathew Jallow.
>>
>> And after the fool reads the nasty tribal bends in the exchanges, what is
>> the fool supposed to do????
>>
>> [For some reason, Suntou has convinced himself that when I write about
>> tribalism relating to the Mandinkas experience, it is fear. Fear of what,
>> might I ask? Are you kidding me? I am an equal opportunity critic of both
>> the Wollofs and the Mandinkas experiences in our country, especially during
>> those dark Jawara years when the Mandinkas wanted it all, and some
>> orchestrated elaborate schemes to exclude everyone else from our nation’s
>> meager resources. And, you wander why, first, Kukoi Samba Sanyang burst onto
>> the scene, and when that failed, Yahya Jammeh came along. Things don’t
>> happen in a vacuum. True the Wollofs were notorious for treating the
>> Mandinkas as second class citizens; Mandinkas too were later notorious for
>> treating everyone else as foreigners in their country. When I was in
>> college, I had no concept of tribalism, and my best friends were Mandinkas
>> for the most part; Sarjo Sonko from Essau, late Lamin Jobarteh from Kaur
>> Janneh Kunda, and Musa Trawalley from Georgetown. Musa and I were so close,
>> I spend Xmas and Easter holidays with his family in Bakau, and we were
>> always posted to the same schools when we were teaching. Everyone understood
>> how so bound together by friendship we were. By the mid-80s, I was no longer
>> naïve, for I had became aware of the tribally motivated rivalries in the
>> country. And I lost count of how many times I heard Mandinkas saying; Gambia
>> mandinkol la banko leti; and ridiculous and irritating as that sounds, some
>> hold on to that stupid way of thinking.] Mathew Jallow.
>>
>> Mathew, I hate to break this to you but we are not really interested in
>> who your friends are or what tribe they belong to. ANd if you're trying to
>> demonstrate with your Mandingo friends that you are not tribalist, well you
>> have failed miserably. I'm reminded that the first thing a racist does is
>> count how many blacks, Arabs, and Lationos he/she has as friends. Don't
>> worry Mathew. I don't know about Suntou but I don't put my pants on both
>> legs at a time. So its the Wollof and Mandingo who are tribalist?? Keep
>> pretending you idiot. And what does that have to do with Ousainou and the
>> UDP. I still don't get your lies and innuendos Mathew.
>>
>> [The other point I want to make is neither of us are aware of what I
>> believe the real reason for Saihou Mballow resignation from his UPD
>> position. During the U.K. demonstrations over the incarceration of Femi
>> Peters last month, Gambians in the U.S. missed Mballow’s organizing skills
>> with which he mobilized us to confront the powers that be at the U.N to seek
>> justice for Mr. Peters and other causes. It took Saikou Mballow years to
>> develop and bring to bear the combined efforts of many Human Rights
>> organizations in the New York area, now all that effort seems to go down the
>> drain. Mballow selflessly led the charge to organize marches and
>> demonstrations at the UN and other venues with supreme success in the name
>> of the UDP. Gambians in New York rallied in droves to his call in support of
>> the causes he was involved in as representative of UDP.] Mathew Jallow.
>>
>> I think you are aware of my commendation of Saihou Mballow variously for
>> his efforts on the behalf of his fellow citizens. I don't understand what
>> you're getting at here Mathew?
>>
>> [For the first time, we in the U.S did not organize demonstration on
>> behalf Mr. Femi Peters, because the Ousainou Darboe, decided for reason to
>> make the U.D.P a family business by-pass Mballow and the great
>> infrastructure he helped built for UDP/NRP over the years, and instead send
>> all official communications to his brother Yahya Darboe.] Mathew Jallow.
>>
>> These are the lies and innuendo you base your tribalist views on Mathew.
>> What a shame? If Saihou told you that Ousainou decided to make the UDP a
>> family business, he would be lying and I know Saihou would not tell you
>> that. If Ousainou makes UDP a family business that is tantamount to
>> declaring the UDP dead. Don't you see Mathew, your arguments don't hold
>> water. Further, if Saihou tells you that Ousainou by-passed him by requiring
>> all communication go to his brother Yahya, Saihou would be lying again
>> because Saihou is in New York and only responsible for UDP New York. And I
>> don't think Yahya is in New York is he? So whatever infrastructure Saihou
>> built in New York Yahya would not be of much value to that.
>> One thing caught my eye Mathew. You insinuated that when Saihou was
>> coordinator of UDP New York, you have attended and organised demonstrations
>> with him. Why would you not continue to organise demonstrations with Saihou
>> when Saihou is no longer Coordinator of UDP-NY?????????? Do you see how
>> tribalism ugly head can rear itself sometimes???? WHat does organising a
>> demonstration for Femi Peters' freedom have to do with Saihou being a
>> coordinator of UDP-NY???? You will be surprised to realise that Saihou is
>> part of the UDP executive like Femi Peters. So you would not join Saihou in
>> organizing a demonstration on the behalf of Femi if Saihou is not
>> coordinator of UDP-NY. I say go eat shit. What business is it of yours
>> anyway how a political party handles its affairs?????
>>
>> [built a formidable infrastructure for UDP/NRP over the Mballow I am told
>> by reliable sources felt marginalized and decided to quit, rather than hold
>> on to a thankless job.] Mathew Jallow.
>>
>> If Saihou told you he felt being part of UDP was a thankless job, then
>> Saihou is in the UDP for the wrong reason. You see honest and sober folk
>> don't join political parties in anticipation of being thanked. And if Saihou
>> told you that, then he was being insincere because his resignation indicated
>> he wished to remain a member of UDP. Now there are several parties in
>> Gambia, but Saihou CHOSE to be in and remain in the UDP. He could belong to
>> PDOIS, NRP, or GMC? In your attempts to justify your lies and innuendo,
>> Mathew you dig a deeper hole for yourself. By all means I want you to talk
>> about tribalism and crime. I just don't think you have a right to lie
>> against someone or to slander someone's good name because of your personal
>> problems with other. Your personal problems are not significant enough to
>> the rest of us unless those problems bear on your fellow citizens' rights.
>> Not being given refrigerator water hardly qualifies as a constitutional
>> crisis.
>>
>> [Now, he can stay at home, drink attaya, watch TV with friends, and enjoy
>> his family, rather than suffer the hassle and bustle of crowded New City
>> trying to coordinate demonstrations.] Mathew Jallow.
>>
>> Even when he was coordinator, Saihou stays home, drinks attaya, watches TV
>> with friends, and enjoys his family. I don't see why a demonstration on the
>> behalf of Femi Peters should curtail that activity. Are you sure Saihou is
>> telling you these things or is the tribalist trying to justify his/her
>> tribalism???
>>
>> [Yaya Darboe his replacement cannot convince Gambians to drop all their
>> work in order to join him in a downtown Manhattan demonstration on behalf of
>> UDP for the good of our country.] Mathew Jallow.
>>
>> I think you malign Yahya unnecessarily. Yahya is not in New York.
>>
>> [UDP will see what took Mballow many years to build, suddenly collapsed to
>> nothingness, all because Ousainou Darboe decided to practice nepotism with
>> his brother.] Mathew Jallow.
>>
>> Ousainou's nepotism or not, if Mballow's INFRASTRUCTURE was so formidable
>> on the behalf of his coleagues in UDP, I don't know why it would crumble to
>> nothingness. I know a thing or two about infrastructure building. But you
>> idiots think praise-singing and worship is why you should engage in
>> development. No wonder all your achievements are short-lived. You have no
>> loyalty to anything or anybody butr yourself because your crimes will not
>> allow you to set up roots in any community.
>>
>> [It is the typical African way of governing. I wanted to write about this
>> mini-quake a while ago, but I was convinced not to for fear of the political
>> repercussion at home and abroad. You two might also want to know that when
>> Ousainou and Yaya Jallow came to the U.S. some months ago, Yahya Darboe I am
>> informed, tried to control what Yaya Jallow did; just acting like UDP was a
>> family business he could control. The UDP may have Fulas like Yaya Jallow,
>> but who can Yaya convince to vote for Darboe. Most Fulas don’t know him. But
>> O.J is a different matter. As for Hamat Bah, he has a successful business to
>> protect, and I will not count on him to be brazenly political against
>> Jammeh.] Mathew Jallow.
>>
>> This is how they go around undermining themselves and blaming others for
>> their losses. How can Yahya try to control what Yahya Jallow did???? I think
>> I should be disappointed in Yahya Jallow for saying that to you or Saihou if
>> he did. Yahya Jallow is not in the UDP just to convince Fulas to vote UDP I
>> hope. If he is, I suggest he leave the UDP right away. I was under the
>> impression Yahya has other values he can bring to bear for the UDP. Besides,
>> no-one is putting a gun to his head to remain in the UDP are they????? In
>> this era of freedom and human rights, it is very difficult to lie against
>> someone and have it stand without reasonable evidence. If the fulas need a
>> fula in UDP to convince them to vote UDP, I would encourage them not to vote
>> UDP. That is dishonest and odious tribalism.
>>
>> [One more point I will make is that many of the folks Haruna calls UDP
>> technocrats, were part of the failed Jawara regime; consisting of a few
>> notorious tribalists, many people of mediocre intellect, whose primary
>> qualifications during Jawara years, was Mandinkaness. Finally, analyze and
>> criticize all you want, it ain’t gonna have any impact, whatsoever, on what
>> I write, when I write, or how I write. So you will do yourself a great
>> service if you save your breath and energies. For trying to restrain me in
>> matters of Gambian politics is like talking to a wall. Can’t hear ya
>> buddies.] Mathew Jallow.
>>
>> What does being part of the failed Jawara regime have to do with a
>> technocrat? And of what value is a technocrat if he/she can't design a
>> solution to mankind's problems???? I don't know the UDP technocrats to be
>> Mandinkas. Unless you imply that they pretended to Jawara that they were
>> Mandingo. The UDP technocrats are Fula, Wollof, Mandingo, Aku, Sarahule, and
>> Serer. Ask Saihou or Yahya.
>>
>> Haruna. I haven't seen a man who thinks he's so critically important to
>> everyone else than this Mathew idiot.
>>
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