Mr Coker,
I totally agree with you on this one! I mean chongan
may have had his share of whatever during the Jawara
regime but he is not justifying anything---he's merely
adding a piece to the jigsaw & I commend him for that.

Good job guys.
Ngai
--- Prince Obrien-Coker <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> Mr. Ngum,
>
> From what you have written, Ebou Chogan is surely
> not your idol and with names like sadist, monster,
> hypocrite and torturer, he is also certainly not
> your friend. My problem here is: What has that got
> to do with his posting?  In my opinion Ebrima
> Chongan is only trying to clarify and corroborate  a
> part of Ebou Colly's story of what happened on that
> particular night at Mile Two.
> This is what Ebou Colly wrote after the brutes were
> ready with Capt. Cham:
>
> "They came back. But it was Major Chongan they went
> for. He was also handcuffed, dragged on the cement
> floor and beaten mercilessly before they took him to
> the back and fired shots in the air again."
>
> The above paragraph was what Ebou Colly saw.
> Chongan's piece is to explain to us what happened
> when "they took him to the back...". Ebou Colly
> didn't expound on it, simply because he didn't see
> it. Which is something that kept everyone who
> studiously read his part ten of The Coup, in total
> suspense of what went on when  "...they took him
> (Chongan)  to the back...". I think Chongan, who
> transpired what Ebou Colly was explaining should be
> commended for the dilation and corroboration of Ebou
> Colly's story rather than being pilloried for
> something that he might had done before this
> episode.
>
> The thing that strikes most in Chongan's piece, is
> that there is not a hint of bitterness or resentment
> in explaining what he went through that night, in
> fact, he added a little bit of hilarity to it by
> calling the person who came to dress his wounds; "GV
> Paint".
>
> Mr. Ngum, in your initial reply to Chongan's
> posting, you wrote "I ain't get no beef..." but with
> the things you wrote about Ebou Chongan in your
> subsequent postings to Mr. Owens, KB and the rest,
> it seems as if you really have a big bone to pick
> with Ebrima Chongan. That is your prerogative, but
> you still do not tell us how Chongan could be a
> "worse monster" than the people he faced on that
> doleful night of  7th September 1994.
>
> I believe the Gambian people will be grateful to
> people like Ebrima Chongan and Ebou Colly for
> sharing their experiences under those horrible
> situations, for to redress the iniquity of those
> dastards, one has to know the TRUTH of what really
> happened.
>
> Prince
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Ousainou Ngum
>   To: [log in to unmask]
>   Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 19:15
>   Subject: Re: WHAT HAPPEN TO US AT RIP.
>
>
>   Ebou Secka and Samba:
>
>      Ebou, thanks a lot for interpreting what I said
> in more legible English.
>   This is exactly the point that I tried to make and
> nothing else. Samba, I'm
>   not sure about what you said vis-a-vis Ebou Colly,
> however, you sill reserve
>   the right to share whatever info you might have
> about this man. Credibility
>   is what we are looking for. Therefore, I'll urge
> Colly to challenge your
>   charges. Chongan is as well being urged to
> challenge my charges, then I'll
>   breakdown his terrible record into some damned
> pieces.
>
>
>   Kujabi and Owens:
>
>       I did not condemn Chongan in any way for
> sharing his story. In fact, I
>   believe it's quite important for us to understand
> what these people went
>   through, however, I'm still sticking by what I
> said earlier. I honestly
>   believe that Chongan would have been a worse
> monster had he been in the
>   position of his former colleagues.
>
>       I do not buy his whinings when he had infact
> perpetrated crimes with
>   similar magnitudes in the past with impunity. I do
> not need to go into
>   recent Gambian history to establish my case
> against this hypocrite. This guy
>   has tortured, abused his powers and commited a
> whole lot of vices that would
>   take a journal to tabulate. His dishonesty in
> revealing the evil of the
>   AFPRC while stifling his unruly behavior in the
> past is where I have
>   aproblem with him. So, Ansumana, as you will see,
> I'm not the "dishonest"
>   here.
>
>      KB, what you are implying is that people can
> perpetrate the worst crime
>   against others, but once they come into your camp
> (anti-Jammeh), their
>   terrible records can be disregarded. This is
> nonesense! You went on to
>   rhetorically ask about the possibility of any
> vendetta Chongan might have
>   with myself and Ebou Secka. I will speak for my
> self on this. Such a beef is
>   nonexistent as far as myself and my family is
> concerned.
>
>      I honestly believe that you are the one who is
> fighting The Jammeh regime
>   from a personal hatred for the man. Who knows who
> you were during those
>   corrupt Jawara days! You know, it makes me sick
> whenever I come across
>   unpricipled folks like you. INJUSTICES SHOULD BE
> TREATED AS SUCH, REGARDLESS
>   OF WHO THE PERPETRATOR OR THE VICTIM IS. This is
> why I'm exposing the
>   horrible acts of an otherwise professional and
> smart officer. No hard
>   feelings or bitterness.
>
>   Peaceout.
>
>
>   Ous Ngum.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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