Thanks Nyang, and my point is simply that there is only one source of political violence in The Gambia, and that the opposition leadership must not insist on "peace" at any cost. One day, things will get our of hand no matter how profound the insistence on non-violence. Witness Libya, Syria, and others. Professor Jammeh is the only one who can avoid that day coming, and neither OJ nor PDOIS can avert that certainty and must not waste valuable advocating it.
I also don't think Halifa should fritter his good will as he spent years cultivating it. He has a lot to say and contribute and in his position I'd leave the militant wing of the struggle to act as it sees fit. People properly look up to Foroyaa but I don't think there is a debate to be had as far as DUGA's conduct at Gambia's DC Embassy. Just think of the Palestinians utilising stones and sticks against Israel's sophisticated weaponry. Anger can be a potent political weapon, and controlled anger by Gambians was what was on display in your very own city during the UNGA, and at the Washington DC diplomatic mission a few days ago.
If you think "rubbish" is inappropriate, I take that back but the context remains. Please substitute "rubbish" with a suitable word that at the same time does justice to my context.
Unsure how my name got substituted with "Me". Yahoo acting naughty, I guess!
Again thanks
LJDarbo
On Sunday, 13 October 2013, 1:01, Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Oh, Thank you LJ,
I do read most of the post here. Was just surprised to see you equating OJ reluctance to seat on the same table with Bayo as some lackluster issue with the opposition. My take is that you are well versed with the intricacies of politics and though you will even commend those not wanting to share a table with Bayo on matters of Gambian politics.
The Foroyaa editorial misfired.
On Saturday, October 12, 2013 7:50 PM, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I don't understand Nyang, but all the same, I missed you.
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>Please elaborate if you have time
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>LJDarbo
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>On Sunday, 13 October 2013, 0:04, Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>LJ, I have to read to the bottom to realize that it is you who is saying the above. Foroyaa or PDOIS aside referring to OJ's stance on the Bayo issue in the fashion you did surprised me.
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>On Saturday, October 12, 2013 5:42 PM, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>Demba
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>>Amazing position from Halifa, and PDOIS.
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>>More amazing still is the fact that a partisan like Kejau is talking about such blatant insult from his Party's leadership in terms of "family", "editor", and "welfare". PDOIS is not a private entity, the so-called editorial has the fingerprints of Halifa all over it, and there is not an iota of credibility to the suggestion that Pasamba's welfare was a calculus behind the editorial.
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>>Pasamba and his colleagues lifted the spirits of a frustrated people and PDOIS is acting as the primary party pooper. Its condemnation of DUGA's Washington direct action is the functional equivalent of OJ saying he won't serve in the Raleigh Steering Committee because of the inclusion of Bayo, a man he claims advocates violence. This is rubbish of the highest order considering there is no bigger merchant of violence in The Gambia than Professor Jammeh.
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>>With such a mind set, even a united front will not do the job if elections is the singular strategy
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>>LJDarbo
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>>On Saturday, 12 October 2013, 21:09, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>Brother Kejau,
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>>Let's call a spade a spade! The editorial is explicit and regardless of what side we support, the reaction to this kinds of messages should be swift and unambiguous. Calling our years of struggle "political adventurism" and the timing of it coming in the midst of our colleagues being arrested is simply ill conceived and uncalled for. You would think that Halifa and the rest of PDOIS will see our struggle in themselves as for years they have been on the march, enduring hardship, isolation, poverty and what not? You will think by now a group that claims to be so in tuned with the realities of the world would recognize that the situation in Banjul cannot be resolved through diplomatic means. You will think that a well read group have a greater understanding of the gist of the civil rights movement and the apartheid struggle in South Africa.
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>>But no! the critics long time accusation against this group as their way or the highway have explicitly manifested itself in this editorial and recent responses to PDOIS Members. For several times Halifa in particular have insinuated that any genuine change will have to pass through them and other parties on the ground... Well, we have news for them, Change is coming to Gambia with or without them. Citizens are sick and tired of playing nice to a brutal dictator who will go at any length to crush our citizens with no exception... this is embarrassing, insulting and I personally reject any characterization of our struggle in the Diaspora as "political adventurism" and needing to go back to the drawing board. We have passed that stage and there is no going back!!!!!!!!!
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>>Demba
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>>On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>Thanks Joe et al,
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>>>I maybe wrong, but I think this whole editorial is being blown out of proportion by all and sundry as no one was calling DUGA activist, robotic, as the advise was for all young people. The gist of the editorial that most seem to be missing was that the DUGA activists were engaging in activities with 9 goals which seems unachievable to the editor. This in their view should be achievable by other means, such as demonstrations, which are better in their than allegedly committing misdemeanours.
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>>>The editor, though seems to think the courts and the police in the US are controlled by the government and not are independent. They also seem to have forgotten the publicity such entries may have achieved.
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>>>This is what makes a democracy and we should never think Pa Samba and others are above criticsm. After all, how many of us support coups and other activities that may be seen as criminal to achieve the ultimate goal of removing tyranny back home?
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>>>Kejau
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>>>________________________________
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>From: [log in to unmask]
>>>Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 14:10:50 -0400
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>>>Subject: Re: [>-<] Foroyaa Editorial on Gambian Diaspora activism: BRAIN AND NOT EMOTION IS THE KEY TO LEADEFRSHIP AND SUCCESS
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>>> Foroyaa Editorial on Gambian Diaspora activism:
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>>>" BRAIN AND NOT EMOTION IS THE KEY TO LEADEFRSHIP AND SUCCESS"
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>>>Lmao. Bilai wolai I'm on my third box of Kleenex. I'm going to stop crying, and laugh out loud.If Foroyaa were to donate a $1 each time they utter rubbish to my favorite charitable fund, Save The Gambia Unneutered Cats, I'll be a very rich good Samaritan.
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>>>Aren't we busy? Don't we have things to do? We have a common enemy and that key to leadership and success is getting rid of Dictator Yaya Jammeh. Anything else is idle talk and bullshit.
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>>>Sent from my HTC one
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>>>From: "Joe Joe" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: "The Gambia Post Forum" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Subject: [>-<] Foroyaa Editorial on Gambian Diaspora activism: BRAIN AND NOT EMOTION IS THE KEY TO LEADEFRSHIP AND SUCCESS
>>>Date: Sat, Oct 12, 2013 12:30 PM
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>>>Kejau, I think the burden is not on Pa Samba but on PDOIS. They know Pa Samba's number and could have discussed what ever idea they had in mind with him and to hear his side of the lie. They did not do that, but to send this insult into the public space about someone that worked with them (I don't know the current relationship) for twenty-five years by the time-line that is floating around. For starters, folks need to stop labeling other thoughts as emotional. Pa Samba will respond however he sees fit. This write-up is no accident and one can sense the malice embedded. Do you have anything to say about the author, who ever they may be? Did I hear you say "concern and welfare". Come on kejau, I know you want to keep the lid on this one "amongst associates", but my God, don't you think concern and welfare are a bit of a stretch? All they will get is a warning and/or probation for the siege. The US is not Gambia. It is not like they murdered or beat up
the staff. What they did to Coach is equivalent to a father whooping their boy for misbehaving. Coach is more than fit to think for himself and for one to call him robot/blind follower, you cannot get lower than that. There is also something that is a pattern with PDOIS write-ups. Have you ever heard them use such description on Yaya who is murdering Gambians and has the country under siege? Yet, the same peaceniks will lash out at their associates or others in opposition Gambia. What the hell is going on? Yaya has lived like a robot and has been killing Gambians like a robot, how about PDOIS using such language on him for a change? When it comes to Yaya, they take the posture that they respect him and he pays them no mind, yet, they will throw all sorts at the rest of us. They said what they had to say, Coach will respond as he sees fit regardless how you and I feel. Joe Joe From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Date: Sat, 12 Oct
2013 13:29:33 +0200
Subject: Re: [>-<] Foroyaa Editorial on Gambian Diaspora activism: BRAIN AND NOT EMOTION IS THE KEY TO LEADEFRSHIP AND SUCCESS Pasamba,
Great job on your stance against tyranny. I am sure the Foroyaa editorial were concerned about your welfare and you should take their criticisms positively. That is the beauty of democracy and instead of attacking their stance, please try to address their concerns and if you want to be critical of their stance and way of doing things, you can do that another time. Remember, we are family afterwards.
Kind regards,
Kejau > From: [log in to unmask] > To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask] > Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 01:00:46 +0000
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> This is one of the most insulting editorials ever written by foroyaa. I am very disappointed by this baseless write up. I will write a fitting response to it and hopefully it will be published in the Monday issue.
> Jow
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