Mr. Kebba Dampha,
I am sure you will agree with me that:

- in a true court of law, one is treated innocent until proven guilty- the
same standard must be applied to either Barrow or Sanyang even if they
appear to be part of a government conspiracy

-real defense lawyers do not go about debunking the prosecutions case before
they get into the court room- an element of surprise is always an advantage
in a trial

-it is the responsibility of the journalist and not the public to verify the
authenticity of the news they bring to us. I do not think either you or I
are any qualified to lecture Ebrima Ceesay about that.

Thank you

Malanding

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dampha Kebba" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: On Dumo Saho, Barrow and others


> Jaiteh, for you to suggest that us talking about this case in public is
> irresponsible and we are putting people's lives in jeopardy, is grossly
> unfair and misleading. You made this erroneous attack on G_L the other day
> and pretended that you sent the mail to us inadvertently. I took it in
good
> faith and sought to explain to both you and Bamba Laye that I do not think
> that this discussion will hurt the accused persons. Despite that you have
> not shown an iota of proof that what we said is going to hurt the accused
> persons, you still insist that we are being irresponsible by engaging in
> this discussion. If you doubt whether these Statements are authentic, why
> don't you ask Lalo's lawyers for your own personal consumption? I
understand
> Lalo is family to you. Why don't you quit making these vague statements
and
> innuendo and come up with specific facts? Prove that Ebrima's Sources are
> wrong about the authenticity of these Statements. If you really do not
want
> to talk about it publicly, tell me or Ebrima in private why you believe
> these Statements are not authentic. You should not take lightly how you
> constantly question people's motives and integrity.
>
> For your information, I do NOT discuss everything I know about these
cases.
> My latest posting to G_L illustrates that point. I know more about the
> Emanuel Joof case than I just said. Do you know the reason why I did that
> even before you sent this your ill-advised piece? I think about the
> repercussions of my statements on these cases before I utter them. I will
be
> the last person to say something that will put the lives of these innocent
> citizens in jeopardy. I can even go further and say that I could be more
> guarded than some of the accused persons themselves. None of them is
family
> to me. Matter of fact, I do not know any of them personally. But I am very
> concerned about their plight. I hate what is happening to them. I do not
> assume from your silence on G_L about this matter that you do not care
about
> Lalo. I give you benefit of the doubt. Why don't you accord us the same
> courtesy and not insinuate that we are irresponsible? Before you make us
> aspersions, you should be ready to show how our statements negatively
impact
> the lives of Dumo et al.
>
> Do you realize that your statements even affect family members of victims
> that partake in these discussions you are querying about? Are you
suggesting
> too that those people are irresponsible and are indifferent to the plight
of
> their loved ones? I know you do not mean to inflict more misery on these
> poor victims. But it is mind-boggling to me why you keep attacking people
> that are trying to help without substantiating your beliefs.
>
> There are some List members that can attest to you that since last year I
> would send private mails to certain individuals cautioning them about what
> to release regarding this case. You would not know that. Those were
tactical
> calls in order not to jeopardize the defense of these innocent citizens.
> Those were NOT the calls of someone that is indifferent to the plight of
> these victims and would discuss their case in public to their detriment. I
> challenge you or anyone to show me where in my discussions I jeopardize
> these people's lives.
>
> Like I told Bamba Laye, what did you want people to do once this
'damaging'
> Statements were out there? Granted that even to the amateur there is
nothing
> damaging on Lalo. You want for us to us to ignore the Statements entirely?
> You want the whole world to take what Barrow, Sanyang and Francesco said
is
> the truth? Or do you want us to lamely argue that the Statements are not
> authentic without providing proof? If you have proof that the Statements
are
> fake, fine. Let us know and we will stop talking about these Statements as
> if they are authentic. That is better than just throwing accusations at
> people and pretending that you care for Lalo and we do not care about his
> life.
>
> Let me also inform you that I am not looking at this as a political
matter.
> I feel that some innocent citizens are being victimized by a lawless
regime.
> I feel what happened to these citizens could have happened to any of our
> family members. As I keep pointing out, my main focus is on the way the
> threshold has been lowered for all of us. Now it does not take much to
> arrest and incarcerate innocent citizens. I will appreciate it a great
deal
> if some of you people on G_L were more forthright. Speak directly to
people
> if you have something to say. No one will kill you. Talk directly to me if
> you have a problem or directly to Ebrima if you have a problem with his
> Sources.
> KB
>
>
> >From: "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: On Dumo Saho, Barrow and others
> >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:46:31 -0400
> >
> >I tried to avoid this discussion two reasons. 1. There is no evidence
that
> >these so-called cautionary statements are indeed authentic and 2. Even if
> >they are authentic I am troubled about publicly debating the case. This
is
> >because whatever the argument, pro or against  could be used by the
> >prosecution who would do anything to see that these people are guilty as
> >charged. Jammeh's refusal to bring this matter to court should tell us
all
> >what there is in it.
> >The reality is the case is not just politics, it is a matter of life and
> >death for the accused.
> >
> >
> >Malanding Jaiteh
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "saul khan" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:05 AM
> >Subject: Re: On Dumo Saho, Barrow and others
> >
> >
> > > KB,
> > >
> > > Is it me, or is there something amiss in this whole
> > > "coup plot" business? Looks like Alagi Kanteh was
> > > supposed to be the leader. The guy was a Captain in
> > > the army, so one would assume he knows a few things
> > > about security. Yet, from the US Embassy Guard -Ablie
> > > Sanyang's "Cautionary Statement," rtd Capt. Kanteh,
> > > just out of the blue asked him -someone Kanteh DID NOT
> > > EVEN KNOW - whether he knows how to fire a gun, so he
> > > can become part of the conspiracy to topple Yaya
> > > Jammeh. Possible? Maybe.  Probable? I can't imagine.
> > > Kanteh would have to be the biggest fool to talk coup
> > > d'etat with people he doesn't even know. Did I miss
> > > something?
> > >
> > >
> > > On a related note, I understand that this Kanteh
> > > fellow has always had a problem with the APRC's
> > > lawlessness, for which he was once dismissed only to
> > > be re-hired. I understand Modou Soma Jobe (Baabaa
> > > Jobe's cousin) used to be his Deputy, but the two
> > > couldn't get along because Kanteh wouldn't allow the
> > > harassment of opposition sympathizers. That he was the
> > > only Commissioner who declares publicly that he's
> > > apolitical. Could this whole "coup" thing be part of
> > > the war to get rid of him, and people considered a
> > > thorn in the govt.'s side? I'm really stunned by what
> > > is happening to Emmanuel Joof right now. Are these
> > > people ever going to stop acting God? Will they ever
> > > settle for anything less than the total subjugation of
> > > ALL THINKING Gambians?
> > >
> > > Good morning.
> > >
> > > Saul.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > Ebrima, my heartfelt thanks for the tremendous
> > > > journalistic work you did to
> > > > unearth these statements. In my humble opinion, the
> > > > victims and their
> > > > families should be grateful to you and your Sources
> > > > for bringing this to the
> > > > open and showing the whole world how these innocent
> > > > and defenseless citizens
> > > > are being railroaded by the illegal and callous
> > > > government we have back
> > > > home. I hope journalists in the country follow your
> > > > cue and do some further
> > > > digging in this case.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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