Joe,

Thanks for your observations.

Best,
Mboge


On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Mbodge, I am in agreement with you. I also do know that PDOIS and other
> political parties are averse to direct action/confrontation with the Yaya
> gang, just like some politicians in the black community in the US were
> averse to direct confrontation with the powers that be back in the sixties.
> However, at some point those who sought change through peaceful means
> cannot continue to be at the mercy of their abuser. That is how the ANC and
> other liberation movements shifted gears to up the ante. Our struggle has
> got to that stage. Yes, if PDOIS believes that they do not want to be
> responsible for life and limb of citizens in such a scenerio, I do
> understand. Having said that, they need to leave those that think they had
> enough to find other means necessary. I do belive that is where many of us
> fit, and certainly what pushed Pa Samba and DUGA to act and more of us need
> to do that, expecially those of us who live in countries where there are
> laws and protection from state sponsored murders. I have been preaching
> this to my colleagues in the struggle. The groups that could stop the abuse
> of our people are the military and the opposition groups. However, those
> that need to act in the military are already bought and sold. The political
> parties needed to develop militancy within their ranks to hedge against the
> excesses of the state. They know that is what is needed, but choose
> otherwise.
>
> I heard that either this week or last Ousainou was called in for
> "Questioning" by the NIA and the UDP militants accompanied him and flooded
> the NIA premesis. After sometime the NIA wanted to clear the yard and
> urged the people to leave, for they just want to have a chat with Ousainou.
> Word has it that the people refused to leave without Ousainou. The NIA may
> be dumb but they are not stupid. They know they can open a lid that they
> are not equiped to close. They let Ousainou go. Now, how come the UDP
> leadership did not do that all these decades to protect innocent
> individuals? So, it is not a question that do do not know what they need to
> do. At some point a party must read the tealeaves for what it presents and
> not what they wish it to be. Collective resistance is what is required. Two
> decades will test any patience and the people have enough. The logical
> conclusion to Yaya is an armed struggle, for he has no intension of
> listening much less leaving.
>
> Regards,
>
> Joe
>
>  ------------------------------
> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 11:54:04 +0200
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [G_L] Fwd: (No subject)
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
> "PDOIS's struggle must be link to the struggles of the young people; it
> must be link to the struggles of the Diaspora Gambians, and indeed it must
> be link to the struggles of all people who want to contribute to the
> evolution of a democratic culture and plurality in the Gambia.
> The second phase of their struggle must find a way and the method to do
> this.
> -Rene"
>
> Rene,
>
> Your above statement needs reflection by the PDOIS folk.   Indeed, some
> sections of the diaspora must be listened to and engaged with (here i am
> not talking about the rabid and false posturers already using this
> editorial to have a go at Halifa).  There are many who simply and genuinely
> want PDOIS to succeed and these people agree in principle with the party's
> approach to things Gambian.
>
> I for one, I totally disagree with those folk who keep castigating the
> opposition on the ground in the way they do things.  I equally think that
> it is false to state that the opposition parties on the ground are afraid,
> or not doing enough about the madness in Gambia or that their leadership
> are selfish as some in the diaspora continue to insinuate.  For me on every
> pertinent issue both the UDP and PDOIS are doing what they could in context
> of what they deem fit.  Perhaps they could do more, I am in no position to
> say.  I appreciate what they are doing in their capacity to bring democracy
> and sanity in the Gambia.  PDOIS are as relevant as ever in our political
> landscape.
>
> In the struggle to rid Gambia off President Jammeh and his enablers, I
> will not urge the opposition to do what I am not ready and willing to do in
> this present time.  I am against the some of the violence some diasporans
> are calling for to remove Jammeh granted that President Jammeh has been
> using violence in all its shape and form since 1994.  I urge those who
> really believe that they are more patriotic and willing to die for their
> beloved land to pack up and go to Gambia and confront Jammeh and his goons
> in the manner they urging the opposition on the ground to do.  After all we
> are all adults and we claim not to be controlled by anybody.  We have equal
> stake as the opposition leaders and we should not wait for them to do
> anything on our behalf.  Many have claimed to be as educated, sophisticaed,
> connected or even more than the 'weak and ineffectual' opposition leaders
> on the ground.  I say go forth and do what you have to do.
>
> That said, direct action such as the DUGA act in DC is legitimate,
> relevant and useful in this struggle especially where the rule of law exist
> to a certain degree such as the USA.  One must be reminded that Martin
> Luther King Jr's great historic march in Washingston never occurred in a
> vacuum or sponteneously.  There were many small direct action protests they
> the Civil Rights Activists carried out that made them visible and
> ultimately gave the courage to stage such the historic I HAVE A DREAM march
> which without a doubt jolted the US authorities.  Small actions by Rosa
> Parks and the everyday resistances of ordinary folk made it possible for
> King and X to confront the government, thus it is uncalled for to ridicule
> others actions which hey carry out responsibly.
>
> Indeed, Halifa used direct action tactic on that ELECTION DAY against
> Jawara just to inspire people and to make them not to be afraid of their
> leaders. Coach Pa Samba must have learned from that. What Halifa did on
> that day had symbolic meaning and dismantled the mysticism surrounding
> Jawara.  To me the DUGA folks are no political novices, these people knew
> and calculated their actions which was in my view  to generate attention on
> the serious situation in the Gambian.  It was a success.  I hope the
> momentum continues.
>
> Direct action inspired the Y'EN MARRE youth in Senegal to take on the Wade
> government and without a doubt the youth in Senegal forced the opposition
> in the end to rally together and find a political solution to the
> Senegalese problem.  These direct actions took place both in Senegal and in
> the diaspora.  We are reminded of Sulayman Jules Diop's action against Wade
> in Chicago.  It had a major impact in Senegal and beyond.
>
> The oppostion parties in Senegal knew they would have died a natural death
> if they stood on the sidelines and watch the then Wade government continue
> with their violence against its citizen.  I hope DUGA's action is
> replicated everywhere Gambia has embassies or such offices.  If we cannot
> protest peacefully in the Gambia without being killed or arrested then we
> should be able to do it in places where rule of law and human rights is to
> some extent respected.  We should be supported or left alone.
>
> Foroyaa which is obviously controlled by PDOIS erred on this editorial,
> period.
>
> Best,
> Mboge
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 1:01 PM, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rebadjan <[log in to unmask]>
> To: gambia-l <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:57 am
>
>
>   "If the DC Embassy action can be called EMOTIONAL AND INEFFECTUAL ONE
> WONDERS WHAT WAS HALIFA SALLAH'S ACTION all about AGAINST
> PRESIDENTJAWARA AT ROCKSY CINEMA ON AN ELECTION DAY DURING THE FIRST
> REPUBLIC."
>
>   Mboge, I was there and walking behind Halifa. This editorial is
> definitely uncalled for. Judging by the reactions on facebook and the
> publicity this has generated, it has arouse a deep sense of ownership to a
> lot of people. The gesture is symbolic and is in the tradition of a  civil
> rights activism that still has currency.
>
>   PDOIS's struggle must be link to the struggles of the young people; it
> must be link to the struggles of the Diaspora Gambians, and indeed it must
> be link to the struggles of all people who want to contribute to the
> evolution of a democratic culture and plurality in the Gambia.
>
>    The second phase of their struggle must find a way and the method to do
> this.
>
>    Rene
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